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Re: Root over rock

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Hi Brett,
This is the Root Over Rock I was telling you about. You should recognise the firt photo from your book.
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Still a lot of development yet. I'm happy with the progress so far.

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Re: Root over rock

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Watto wrote:Currently at the national collection in Canberra there is a Chinese Elm RoR that is not too bad - OK so that's an understatement.
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Is that one of Hong Lin's trees? Reminds me of one of his.

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Re: Root over rock

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Mojo, I believe that is Rod Lovett's Elm ?

Brett, you've done a great job with your ROR. I see a lot of C. Elm's in the stock department of nurseries up my way and most are quite unimpressive becasue the size and quality of rock is disappointing. I think Rod's tree is something to strive for, as the rock is in more proportion to the tree. As I see it, the general consensus of ROR is a tree growing on a cliffside, mostly in a semi-cascade fashion. Therefore you don't want the tree to melt and swallow the rock, as in the case of a lot of Ficus species.

Again, I like your composition and I wouldn't worry too much about the roots. As is, the placement of roots is very pleasing and can only improve in the coming seasons.
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Ray M wrote:Hi Brett,
This is the Root Over Rock I was telling you about. You should recognise the firt photo from your book.
Chinese Elm.jpg
Chinese Elm-2.jpg
IMG_4809 -2.jpg
Still a lot of development yet. I'm happy with the progress so far.

Regards Ray
Hi mate,

Sorry, I know you didn't ask for one, but I couldn't help myself :whistle:
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Watto wrote:Currently at the national collection in Canberra there is a Chinese Elm RoR that is not too bad - OK so that's an understatement.
Spectacular ROR elm this one !!! Thanks for sharing Watto !!! :tu: :tu: :tu: Yours is coming along too Brett !!! :tu:
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Hi MoGanic,
Thanks mate. Appreciate the idea. :tu:

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Thanks for posting that one Ray. It is turning into a great example. It looks like the roots are going to pull in real tight on the first couple of pics but true to elm form they seem to have lifted out a little in the last pic. Damn you elm tree :shock:
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Stewart_Toowoomba wrote:
kcpoole wrote:Nice tree and Pot brett :yes:

Have not any worth posting, but have 2 in progress

Ken
surely you'd have something that is worthy of a photo Ken?

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Ok if you insist :-)
I have 2 Trident Maple root over rock and both grown from seed in 2005, and grown in tubes to lenghen the roots

this one is an slating style sort of thing :-)

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the other one is here.
The top got broken off by a cat ( not mine) jumping of the fence and so is being regrown.

Last time Peter Adams was here he came to school one night and drew sketches of it for me.

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Re: Root over rock

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Hi Brett,
The roots can always be bound back onto the rock. As you know Elm roots are quite pliable.

Hi Ken,
Don't you love that red rock. I wish I could get my hands on some more of the stuff. :)

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It is something I thought about but not seriously :P
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I wouldn't worry about the roots not flattening out yet its way too soon for that to happen, give it a few more years.
My ror tridents which have been on rocks for nearly 20 years are just showing signs of beginning to meld in with the rock.
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Ray M wrote:
Hi Ken,
Don't you love that red rock. I wish I could get my hands on some more of the stuff. :)

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You'd be able to find that red volcanic rock at most aquarium/pet shops that have aquascaping supplies, hope this helps.
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Re: Root over rock

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If the tree is on the red rock long enough and is a strong rooting tree this is what happens.
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With a less powerful tree it is fine. As in the C,elm
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craigw60 wrote:I wouldn't worry about the roots not flattening out yet its way too soon for that to happen, give it a few more years.
My ror tridents which have been on rocks for nearly 20 years are just showing signs of beginning to meld in with the rock.
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Hi Craig, If a tree is set right on the rock the right species of tree such as the trident will meld onto the rock within a couple of years in the ground.
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