AusBonsai

Question is do you have the material to justify the pot?

ViBeS wrote:Errrr I asked a local potter (my dad) if he could replicate this pot and glaze. He said any potter (or yr 11 art student could). Basic slab pot, $15.

Hmmm...

Hi Beano,

I go by the "cut-losses" principle. If we are happy with the decision now. Go for it, it is right at this moment in time.

Beano wrote:Is the US dollar going to weaken again soon?

It could go either way I guess. What happens if ours get weaken?

Best regards.

Hi Andrew,

We do not have too!

Andrew F wrote:Question is do you have the material to justify the pot?

Looking at an empty pot such as this one is a pleasure in itself

Regards.

the aussie dollar will be 80 cents by the end of the year, it will go down to 70 cents by this time next year and hover around there for a while

daiviet_nguyen wrote:Hi Andrew,

We do not have too!

Andrew F wrote:Question is do you have the material to justify the pot?

Looking at an empty pot such as this one is a pleasure in itself

Regards.

Thats true in itself and i do agree to a point, I have bought plenty of pots that i dont have a tree for [hoarding for hoardings sake]. But i could never justify a pot that expensive, just to be a nice paper weight lol

ViBeS wrote:Errrr I asked a local potter (my dad) if he could replicate this pot and glaze. He said any potter (or yr 11 art student could). Basic slab pot, $15.
I'm having 30 raku pots made ATM. Wood fired kiln. 500 yr old japanese technique. THEY are something to behold!
When they are ready ill post some pics

Look forward to seeing them!

Beano
Buy direct from yoko name itself heaps cheaper and here in 4 days posted
All insured and knowing your getting the real deal they are very helpful and will go to great lengths to please u .
Google then and send them an email with the link of the one you want from eBay
Cheers

I can't say anything about the price, but I love the pot. Very nice.

It looks to be a copper crystalline glaze, very well controlled, with a lovely brown break on the edges. It would be extremely difficult to reproduce, unless you are experience with that family of glazes. You're very unlikely to find it in Oz. It's very fine, but my reservation is that it's a bit "gorgeous" for bonsai - my preference is for something a little more reserved. But to each his own.

I would like to see the wood-fired pots when they surface. Be a little cautious - if the clay is porous at all, the soaked-in water may freeze in a heavy frost, and the pot may break. The colours of wood-firing should suit our trees, but they're not much used.

Gavin

[quote="ViBeS"]Errrr I asked a local potter (my dad) if he could replicate this pot and glaze. He said any potter (or yr 11 art student could). Basic slab pot, $15.

Good Luck! 3 generations of Japanese Potters have produced that KOYO glaze and I'm not sure if anybody around the world has been able to replicate it.
I have seen some backyard potters that have had a go at making pots and they have a long way to go to get it right. Often it's not just the glaze but the finishing of the pot that makes it worthwhile paying the Japanese prices. $280 is a lot for a pot but if you have a quality tree, then you want it in a quality pot.
IMO, there's been a few local Potters pots that I have been impressed with doing good work but a lot still have very coarse pots not quite good enough for quality trees.
There's a huge difference in quality between a Bonsai Pot and something you're going to stick a bulb in.

Andrew Legg wrote: ViBeS wrote:Errrr I asked a local potter (my dad) if he could replicate this pot and glaze. He said any potter (or yr 11 art student could). Basic slab pot, $15.
I'm having 30 raku pots made ATM. Wood fired kiln. 500 yr old japanese technique. THEY are something to behold!
When they are ready ill post some pics



Look forward to seeing them!

AS do I Andrew.
Im researching Raku pot making ATM and hope to be producing some pots myself very soon.
I would love to see some pics of these.

A pot, a bonsai, a car, a dinner, a home ... the price is what the market is willing to pay at the time.

Personally, I do not see it as an 'investment' ... you will have bought a commodity, that only upon selling it, will you realise a 'profit on investment'.

Some people pay a lot of money to walk around an open space and hit little white balls, others pay a lot to go to a theatre performance. Others pay heaps ... in money and life choices ... on other items and substances!

At the end of the day I return to a quote I was heard to make when I was about 7 years old ... 'money is to enjoy yourself with'. If you get pleasure from the beauty of a wonderful piece of pottery ... then go for it.

... but at the end of the day, be under no illusion that it is necessarily an 'investment'.

.... and always keep in your mind that bonsai is fun!!!

I didn't think a thing like that could be an investment. I guess it was suggested because they're considered art I suppose. Honestly if I were to buy it it would be to it my favourite tree in it, not to sell for a profit.

I just want to add my here. I'm guilty of spending a lot of money on pots, and could have spent much less. In South Africa we have a lot of cheap and mid range Chinese pots imported at the moment, and it was only in the early days of bonsai in this country that people actually were bringing in Japanese pots. This means that the Japanese pots are difficult to find, and the quality is a quantum step up from the cheap Chinese stuff and a definite step up from the middle range Chinese stuff. The way I figure it, if you can afford a good pot for a tree, go for it. We have a guy here who reckons that there is only one bonsai in South Africa that deserves a Japanese pot, but I don't agree. I have many marginal trees in good pots, and I enjoy them for the pots as much, if not more than I do for the trees! So, if you take this hobby seriously, you have the twack, and you truly like the pot, then treat yourself.