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Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: November 17th, 2013, 7:55 pm
by Meagi
Great link scott

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: November 19th, 2013, 8:32 pm
by shibui
Jacob, You already have these growing in individual pots so you can just slip pot them into larger pots if you like.
At this stage you can also cut the roots and it will not harm the tree. I would normally cut the roots when I pot trees on because that will promote more feeder roots which will ultimately make a better bonsai.
I have not yet met a plant that cannot tolerate root pruning when they are very young like these.

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: November 20th, 2013, 8:22 am
by Jabobo
Hi Shibui,

Thanks, I might make an experiment out of it. I'll take half and cut the tap root, and slip pot the other half and watch how they progress. I assume the slip potted trees will initially grow faster as they have been relatively undisturbed, but the tap root pruned trees might take longer to settle in but ultimately make better trees.

In terms of wiring movement into the trucks early, there was a method of wiring shown here by one of you guys (sorry I cannot remember the name/thread) of wiring curves into a native tree. Since the branches were so thin that they couldn't be wired by normal twisting around (or they were worried about the wire cutting in.... now I can't remember), he made lengths of wire that were pre-coiled around a pencil or some other thin cylindrical object and then put the coil on the branch. Could this be done with these? Because as they are now, I wouldn't be able to wire them, and it would give them room to grow without damaging the trunk.

Cheers

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: November 20th, 2013, 11:23 am
by Scott Roxburgh
Perfect size for getting tight curves into the trunks!

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1307&start=135#p148477

You will never regret putting in more curves when they are young!

Just wire the trunks with one wire as usual, then apply another between that one, it help the snappy nature.

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: November 22nd, 2013, 7:19 pm
by shibui
If the trunk is too thin to put a wire on then let it grow a few months until it is. I don't think they will get too stiff in that short time.
Scott is right about good movement being very important but so is taper and I believe taper comes primarily from pruning so both wiring and pruning is needed to make a good bonsai.

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: November 22nd, 2013, 9:52 pm
by Jabobo
Cheers Scott, thanks for the link. I just potted the seedlings into larger pots, so I might give them a couple of weeks to settle in. I started to make a new thread so I could post and ask more specific questions rather than general ones here but my computer crashed and I lost it, and I was too lazy yesterday to re-do it all... Maybe tomorrow

Hey Shibui, they are probably not too thin for someone with some experience. I just have never wired anything in my life and am worried that with my clumsy hands that I'll do more damage than good.

When i re-do the other thread I'll ask for some pointers on how to wire the trees based on the style I want to grow into.

Thanks again

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: January 21st, 2014, 3:59 pm
by Gabriel005
I also want to grow some apple and orange bonsai trees.
I need some guidance about how to grow these bonsai tree, how to make them different style, and how to maintain these plants?

Re: Apple tree seeds , advice for a nooby :)

Posted: January 21st, 2014, 4:43 pm
by xtolord
Hi all,
Its an interesting post, and I see lots of starting from seed for the first time.
I wrote a post on a batch of pomegranate that I started from seed, its not a definite guide but it could be of interest to some of you guys on this thread.

http://maubonsai.blogspot.com/2014/01/p ... art-i.html