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Re: Akadama

Posted: January 2nd, 2009, 10:06 pm
by PeterW
MelaQuin wrote:Leong Kwong at Bonsai South in Caringbah in Sydney's southern suburbs carries akadama. He has a website http://www.bonsaisouth.com.au and you could get more info from him.


Do you know if he (Leong)has the same product as Bonsai Enviroment or is it different?
Peter

Re: Akadama

Posted: January 14th, 2009, 3:14 pm
by Marc
Just saw one of my Melbourne shops has a shipment in... Bonsai Art, Hetherton.

So, how good is this stuff compared to other "good" bonsai potting mix from a garden shop??

Re: Akadama

Posted: January 15th, 2009, 12:51 pm
by Pup
Hi Marc The Japanese Akadama is wonderful. The Japanese have been using it for centuries.
The Americans have been using it for sometime now also the Europeans have. We have had here in the west for about 5 years. It was very pricey so it was not used that much. Then it became cheaper. Those that use it now are very pleased with the results.
I hope this long winded answer helps you. :D ;) Pup

Re: Akadama

Posted: January 15th, 2009, 8:01 pm
by Marc
Thanks mate, will give it a go!!

Re: Akadama

Posted: April 13th, 2009, 7:42 pm
by sreeve
Hi all,
I have only recently begun reading this site in earnest and must admit that I wish I had paid more notice earlier - it is really good, thanks to a very active participation by a heap of Aussie's both interested in Bonsai and interesting bonsai addicts....

As for Akadama and Kanuma, I have been freighting it from Western Australia for the past few years and this has cost me heaps.....

Now that I know it is available in the Southern Suburbs of Sydney, I will make the car trip in the coming months.
Mind you it will probably cost me more because the nursery in question has fantastic material and I am bound to buy something :D

Thanks for the useful info
Steve

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 7:01 pm
by Bretts
Might be a bit late for most of the repotting for this season but anyone wanting to buy shares in a 100 bag pallet of Akadama from WA to Sydney the cost will be $20 a bag.
Arthur
"There is a chioce of Akadama or KanumaThey come in 4 grades, Large, Medium, Fine and Super Fine. Akadama is used for most bonsai in various mixes and Kanuma for any acid loving plants ( particularly for Azaleas and Camellias etc ). In Japan these are sometimes mixed. The Kanuma is not very acid, just slightly. The Super Fine is used mostly as a top dressing, as cutting and seed material and for the smaller bonsai ( Shohin, Mame etc.) we use it a fair bit over here.Both soils inhibit fungal problems ( I have had no Damp-off with seed using Kanuma)".
There are 20 bags accounted for so far.
Expresions of interest invited by PM or on the thread.

Here is an article written by the distributor

KANUMA & AKADAMA

These two ‘soils’ are in fact Pumice and have excellent properties for plant growth. They are light and therefore easier for pot handling, but most importantly they have the following useful properties:

They drain perfectly if prepared correctly.
They allow air to be drawn into the mix when watered.
They maintain near perfect moisture retention for plant health.
They are granular in character and aid root/nebari development.

Akadama is Neutral and Kanuma slightly Acid.

The Akadama used for potting purposes is HARD Akadama; SOFT Akadama is not of any use for bonsai.

Both Akadama and Kanuma come in 4 grades:

Large
Medium
Fine
Super Fine (used mainly for smaller bonsai such as Shohin
and Mame, and cuttings)

If the 3-layer (ie large in the bottom ⅓, medium in the middle ⅓ and fine for the top ⅓) repotting system recommended by all Japanese Bonsai Masters and Growers is adopted, the resulting growth, particularly in the second year after repotting, is strong but controllable.

The Super Fine Grades of Akadama and Kanuma can be used for cuttings, either combined with River/Propagating Sand 50/50 or on their own.


IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOTE

After opening the bag to make up a mix, lightly sieve the
contents to remove and collect the dust which can then be used
for making Peat Muck as is done in Japan.

After repotting, the pot should be watered copiously until the
water runs out clear from the bottom of the pot.

Kanuma and Akadama can be re-used once or twice, making them
very economical; sieve them each time and water accordingly.


MIXES

In Japan it rains for the month of June (December in Australia) and the temperature is about 30°C; July (January) and up to 35°C with about 99% humidity. These mixes have worked very well in Japan for 100 yrs or so and if used correctly achieve wonderful results.

KANUMA (acid pH)

Used principally for acid-loving bonsai - Azaleas/Rhododendrons, Camellias, etc, Satsuki in particular.

Satsuki/Azaleas: 100% (In a dry summer climate such as South or Western Australia a little Sphagnum Moss may be added.)
Orchids: Kanuma 6 parts, Leaf Mould 2 parts, River Sand 2 parts.
Indoor Plants: Kanuma 3 parts, Akadama 4 parts, Leaf Mould 3 parts.
Bulbs: Kanuma 5 parts, Akadama 2 parts, Leaf Mould 3 parts.

HARD AKADAMA (neutral pH) Akadama can be made harder if baked in the sun.

Used for Coniferous and deciduous trees other than acid-loving plants.

Black Pine/White
Pine/Shimpaku: Akadama 7 parts, Coarse River Sand (CRS) 3 parts.
Red Pine: (1) Akadama 6 parts, CRS 2 parts, Japanese Black Soil or Coco Peat
2 parts. (Ordinary peat repels water if it dries out in the mix.)
Or: (2) Akadama 8 parts, CRS 2 parts.
Zelkova/Elms: Akadama 8 parts, CRS 2 parts.
Maples: Akadama 8 parts, Sphagnum Moss 1 part, CRS 1 part.
Australian Natives: This is currently an open field but Akadama has been used on
its own, mixed with Kanuma and/or gravel and other media to
remarkably good effect. Very strong healthy growth and good
flower production have been recorded to date.

NOTES: Sphagnum Moss should be prepared by drying and then rubbing through a
medium sieve to make even particles before adding to the mix.

If using River or Propagating Sand, sieve out the finest particles. Gravel of a
uniform/graded size could be used instead.

When repotting do not jab too hard with the chopstick as this will break the
granules down.

Large particles produce heavy root and heavy top growth while fine particles
produce fine roots and fine top growth - important for pines in particular and
any bonsai once the basic structure is established.


Following these simple instructions a perfect very open free-draining mix can be achieved - ideal for bonsai culture.



ARTHUR ROBINSON, March 2008

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 7:06 am
by sreeve
Adding my 10 bags (of Kanuma), brings it to 30.....

70 more to go (of either Akadama or Kanuma).........

Thanks for organising this Brett - I have been using both in the past and really like the Kanuma on Azaleas.
Unfortunately I have not been able to find this in Sydney even though one of the nurseries was reported as having the product.

Our only alternative is to freight it from WA.

Lets hope the remaining 70 bags are taken up soon

(Approx $2 freight premium per bag is cheaper than the $20 - $25 freight premium I had to pay in bringing over small quantities)
Steve

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 9:21 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
You've been PM'd Brett. Also I have posted this on the Canberra Bonsai Society website so there may be some interest from here in Canberra.

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 9:24 pm
by Bretts
LOL I just replied Scott and was comming on to add your expression of Interest. That is a great Idea about the Canberra Club Thanks.

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 11:00 pm
by techpetal
MelaQuin wrote:Leong Kwong at Bonsai South in Caringbah in Sydney's southern suburbs carries akadama. He has a website http://www.bonsaisouth.com.au and you could get more info from him.


Leong stocks the Korean Expanded Clay his quote "But akadama and Korean expanded clay are two different medium. Korean expanded clay can be recycle and I have recycle them for the last 15 years and still going strong. Other growing medium you discard once you use them. See if my mate in Korea can still get some for me. Fingers cross." As of three days ago he is still trying to finalise further osurce for the Korean clay.


Sign me up for 5 bags of the Akadema to be bought to Sydney. :mrgreen:

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 5:39 am
by nevilleh
I have emailed you separately Brett to order 6 bags - 2 each of large medium and fine grades - Thanks for organising this (another order from Canberra Bonsai club) cheers

Neville

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 12:20 pm
by Bretts
That puts us over the half way mark at 51 bags accounted for.
We now have an official treasurer and collection site near Parramatta.
This is a work in progress and a true shared deal. The cost price is $18 per bag with $2 per bag added to the price to cover transport costs to the collection site in Sydney. We are still looking for a light truck and driver that would reduce the cost even closer to $18 a bag :)
This is the best quality hard akadama. Don't be afraid to ask for only a bag or two if any members just want to try this stuff out.

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 12:34 pm
by kcpoole
Hey Brett

Are you only allowing Akadama or can we order Kanuma as well?

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 2:04 pm
by Bretts
Kanuma as well KC. Aurthur will mix and match the pallet for us.

Re: Akadama

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 4:09 pm
by kcpoole
Bretts wrote:Kanuma as well KC. Aurthur will mix and match the pallet for us.
Ah cool Bretts
Count me in for 5 bags
2 x kanuma - 1 fine + 1 medium grade
3 x Akadama - 1 fine + 2 Medium

Ken