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Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 8th, 2014, 8:52 pm
by Ray M
Sean M wrote:In regards to the two trunks being too close, could you put a spacer in between them and slowly separate them. Perhaps a turnbuckle to gradually move them further apart?
Hi Sean,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, mate I think that would work. I will wait until next year and see what the tree does before making a decision.

Thanks again.

Regards Ray

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 8th, 2014, 10:14 pm
by dansai
raewynk wrote:Ray I was wondering if this would work on a Daintree pine????
I don't see why not. Daintree Pine is not a pine, or even a gymnosperm, but very closely related to Casuarinas. Actually botanical name is Gynostoma australianum. There are a few posts on them on this forum.

Edit:
Just looked through some of the topics and found this. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7298&hilit=daintree ... 15#p143080 Matt didn't have any luck but others may have. Maybe start a new topic rather than drift too far off topic here. I have a few going I might start a new topic with some pics.

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 9th, 2014, 11:20 am
by raewynk
Thank you for the tip, I didn't mean to get away from RayM topic by any means.

But the procedure has been so clearly defined on this post better than what I had seen any where else, I had to ask.

But thank you I am only a newbie to posting for pointing this out to me.

I am here to learn from others in all regards. No offense taken or implied.

:oops: :cool:

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 9th, 2014, 1:59 pm
by raewynk
RayM,
just curious what would happen if you split the two vertical and sealed with cutting paste to get two trees.
Is it a viable option or is it too risky for survival of both the trees.
I only considered this because the root growth appears to be even on both sides of the trunk.

I ask because you have more knowledge than I have.

And what is a turnbuckle Please ????????????????

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 9th, 2014, 6:09 pm
by Ray M
Hi raewynk,
raewynk wrote:RayM,
just curious what would happen if you split the two vertical and sealed with cutting paste to get two trees. I don't want to completely seperate the trunks. I could certainly split the trunk a little and seal them well to prevent root. Have a look at this link. You will see a twin trunk Swampy that has been formed by splitting the trunk. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=twin ... 80&bih=880
Is it a viable option or is it too risky for survival of both the trees.
I only considered this because the root growth appears to be even on both sides of the trunk.

I ask because you have more knowledge than I have.

And what is a turnbuckle Please ???????????????? Have a look at this link https://www.google.com.au/search?q=turn ... 80&bih=880 If turnbuckles were used you would need to attach the pot to a solid base and apply a turnbuckle to each trunk. Most probably a V wedge would work well. The wedge can be forced between the trunks over time to spread them.
Regards Ray

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 9th, 2014, 6:20 pm
by Ray M
Hi Rae,
raewynk wrote:Ray I was wondering if this would work on a Daintree pine???? The one I bought is approx. 1.2m in height from the top of the pot and the trunk would be over 700mm of the tree roughly.

I am a newbie but thought the only way I could be do a layer But no knowledge or experience.

Regards
Rae :lost:
I have done some checking and I agree with dansai, it should be able air layer quite well. The following link is some information on this species. http://wildwings.com.au/2009/04/13/gymn ... tmas-tree/

Regards Ray

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 9th, 2014, 7:55 pm
by dansai
Thanks for the link Ray. I've started another thread here and included the picture from the link you provided. From the pic it looks quite promising although I have found branches to get leggy with lovely pine like growth on the tips giving the christmas tree appearance, but branches are thin and the trunk slow to increase in girth.

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: February 10th, 2014, 12:48 am
by raewynk
RayM, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I saw the picture and the scarring on the trunk does not look pretty.

The turnbuckle didn't ring a bell with me, but an obvious use for the purpose, as with the v wedge.

I'll change feet about now.

Dansai, thank you for the new thread, I'll put up picture, look forward to comment, sorry if I stepped on toes.

Regards
Rae :oops:

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 9th, 2014, 5:42 pm
by Ray M
Hi everyone,
Some update photos on the stock tree.
IMG_8142 -2.jpg
IMG_8143 -2.jpg
Regards Ray

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 9th, 2014, 9:23 pm
by raewynk
Looks like a winner I would say. Thank you Ray M for the informative post.

Rae
:hooray:

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 10th, 2014, 8:48 am
by Sean M
Just to clarify the turnbuckle theory on seperating the trunks, only one is needed. You cut the ends to form a U shape and slowly open it to keep the trunks apart that would work. Graham Potter uses a similar setup in one of his videos to shift a branch.

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 10th, 2014, 8:55 am
by Ray M
Sean M wrote:Just to clarify the turnbuckle theory on seperating the trunks, only one is needed. You cut the ends to form a U shape and slowly open it to keep the trunks apart that would work. Graham Potter uses a similar setup in one of his videos to shift a branch.
Hi Sean,
Thanks for this info mate. Sounds like that would certainly work. Thanks again.

Regards Ray

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 10th, 2014, 9:51 am
by davemc
Hi ray, just wondering if you added anything to the muck mix you put around the the layer. :?:

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 10th, 2014, 5:55 pm
by Ray M
davemc wrote:Hi ray, just wondering if you added anything to the muck mix you put around the the layer. :?:
Hi Dave,
No mate, this is my normal muck mix. To make the muck I use ground clay and cow manure, mixed 50/50. Make sure the cow manure in mature and not fresh manure. If it's fresh it could burn the roots.

Regards Ray

Re: Creating a Twin Trunk from a Non Twin Trunk

Posted: March 11th, 2014, 9:59 am
by davemc
Cheers thanks ray will give that a go, :cool: