Re: Boics Allocasuarina Torulosa Progression
Posted: February 15th, 2015, 9:45 pm
If you are happy with the height, then ignore my comments... but I think this would look better being taller than it is at the moment 

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Boics wrote:Update.
1. I can see from the photo that some of the branches need wiring to more sympathetically align to their peers.
2. Beyond this I have been working on ramification via much pinching.
3. I'm also trying to balance areas and negate the apical dominance of this species.
Always happy to hear thoughts, suggestions, views.
Boics wrote: My thoughts on your cut back are that it will likely explode with new growth and give you options..
Having said this I wouldn't risk it.. My recommendation is to cut right back to the nearest green during the more active months.
Good luck.
Thanks to you both for the input. I have already cut back to the nearest green about a month ago, no joy with budding below that but clearly the tree isn't active now... It's a bit chilly! Will wait until Spring to reassess and hopefully witness new growth pushing below. If not, might just chop and see (there is a second leader option if it ends badly!)treebuilder wrote:Repotting Casuarina can be variable but you don't really want to repot anything when there will be no active growth soon following. They can be repotted at different times of year depending on local conditions and general aftercare.You can be a little harsh on them they go alright.You can cut past green but as always it's up to your experience and good judgement if you should.
Torulosa wants to grow vertically upwards as much as possible to produce stronger upward growth for maximum sun exposure. The best way to thicken your lower branches, is actually to not bend them down initially. This slows down the growth quickly in the lower branches because it forces the energy into the upwards higher growth up top. Casuarina wont waste energy into branches that are going to grow downwards, more so than the branches up top that will reach for the light. A branch that grows up from the trunk as opposed to straight out from the trunk is a stronger branch, and casuarina will always put more energy into the upward starting 'stronger' branches.Boics wrote:It's actually hard to thicken things up down low but I suppose some harsher treatment up top will fix this!
Just also apply the upwards growth on this technique, otherwise it can often still not show strong vigour.treebuilder wrote:all good,
With Casuarina in Training you need to allow them to extend shoots with out pinching and cutting . So you allow the red arrows free run never reducing them until they are say pencil size or bigger so they are capable of not dying back when cut. By allowing red shoots to grow strong they become small branches(orange) and when cut back will shoot again .This way to build all primaries,secondaries and tertiary branching. Then once a set of branching has been built /set in place , ramification of foliage(purple) can be worked on by pinching shoots when very young. Your tree shows much promise,keep at it.
Trunk chopping below growth can usually be done but comes with potential dangers. If you do this in winter or coming into winter it can potentially die back and produce suckering. The optimum time for a trunk chop is middle to late Spring, when the tree is in strong growth. I would as a rule, not trunk chop below the first shoot regardless, for a number of reasons. Make sure the tree is in good health FIRST. If it is not, nurse the tree to good health before you even think about it. Then, just trunk chop above the first shoot, and it will usually produce a heap of new growth anywhere up to 10cm below the chop, and sometimes a lot from below this point as well. Then, you can just pick and choose what you want, but allow all new growth to develop for a few seasons to promote strength. After 9 months or so, if it hasn't produced new growth low enough for you, you can usually just wait for new growth down low, as casuarina commonly produce low shoots continually over time. Otherwise you can trunk chop again to above the first point of growth after a few years. This is my preferred method (patience in other words). I have cut back below the first shoots a few times on stock, and have had it die back to the base, so just bare this in mind.Ryceman3 wrote:PS: any thoughts on trunk chopping below shoots/ green? I've got a leader I want to reduce but unsure of back budding potential, I think it should be OK yeah?
Rory wrote:Yes, sorry, I hope Boics doesn't mind me ranting in his thread.
As boics' tree wasn't cut initially in the straight section, I felt it would thus be better being taller to minimize the visual effect of the long straight section, but they often have straight sections in nature so it is cool either way. I probably should have just started a new thread for Casuarina growing, but with all the questions in this thread I was just offeringEach to their own
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If you trunk chop to create taper in Torulosa, for myself it is often primarily to create the more natural jagged trunks that they develop in the wild, not to create a thick short trunk. You can't get this look by wiring. If you grow them 'long and strong', they will taper naturally and thicken very quickly at the chopped sections regardless, so there isn't anything to be concerned about regarding too thick a trunk down low, as this can always be rectified over time. They are such great stock for this and so many reasons as well.
Shohin or smaller is probably the only one style that is very difficult to attain on this species. Die-back and sun are the inherent problems for Torulosa shohin styling. They just don't lend themselves well to it in my opinion, but those that pull off an actual natural looking tree in shohin with great and healthy branch development - rather than a porcupine or an unhealthy stump - it is a great credit to you.