AusBonsai

bonsaisensation wrote:

kcpoole wrote:I would do so for $80 per hour. minimum 1/2 day call out

Ken

hi Ken
if you don't mind me asking, how do you arrive at your price? it'd be useful for the general bonsai public to get a sense of how we value our work. and perhaps if anyone cares to comment, how they value our work.

EdwardH wrote:A point to consider before paying for a days work by one of the more proficient bonsai practitioners around is do you have any trees worth the expense? <br abp="708">In my view, unless you have a stump with plenty of options for carving or extreme bending, or a tree which is at or near show quality which you want to take to the next level, then you waste their time, experience and your money. <br abp="709"><br abp="710">Another point is each probably have high level of skills or experience in certain areas which the others may not have, or at least not to the same proficiency. For example if I was doing Melaleucas then I'd call Pup.<br abp="711"><br abp="712">Another point to consider is artistic flair. Do you appreciate an artists style? Picasso is a world renowned painter but I loath his work. Give me Rembrandt any day. <br abp="713"><br abp="714">In my view, $100 an hour is probably a fair rate for most demonstrators whilst those who have developed trees to say international level e.g. Pup and Hugh Grant, Ray Nesci etc. would have to be worth at least double or triple that figure.

hi EdwardH
it's great to know that there are someone like you who are willing to pay $200-$300 an hour for Pup, Hugh or Ray's work. i'll personally get in contact with Ray to inform him of the good news.

Andrew F wrote:Trying not to rustle too many jimmies but is there any trees in Australia that warrant the sorta money thats been proposed?

Billy wrote:

Andrew F wrote:Trying not to rustle too many jimmies but is there any trees in Australia that warrant the sorta money thats been proposed?

It's not really about if the tree's are good or not, some people are collectors of Bonsai for example and don't really want or know how to wire/style trees.
There's a saying(not mine) -maybe oldschool-maybe not." There are 2 types of bonsai people, the first can Grow good bonsai , and the second can Style good bonsai. People that can do both properly are rare." The difficulty is finding the balance between the two.

bonsaisensation wrote:

Billy wrote:

Andrew F wrote:Trying not to rustle too many jimmies but is there any trees in Australia that warrant the sorta money thats been proposed?

It's not really about if the tree's are good or not, some people are collectors of Bonsai for example and don't really want or know how to wire/style trees.
There's a saying(not mine) -maybe oldschool-maybe not." There are 2 types of bonsai people, the first can Grow good bonsai , and the second can Style good bonsai. People that can do both properly are rare." The difficulty is finding the balance between the two.

My observation is this" there are those who can grow trees well, and those who can style trees well. People who can do both properly are rare. When they do, I'd call them people who can grow bonsai".

Pup wrote:I would like to think my trees speak for me, so I guess, you might say I can grow bonsai.

Andrew F wrote:Trying not to rustle too many jimmies but is there any trees in Australia that warrant the sorta money thats been proposed?

Grant Bowie wrote:I charge a flat rate of $70 per hour whether for bonsai work or private workshops/lessons etc and am busy enough in my retirement. People also pay for travelling time to and from if I go to their place and I am getting repeat business.

I have overhauled, repotted, wired, styled single trees up to whole collections .

I enjoy the private one on one workshops as these are very focused on a result; passing on skills and getting a good bonsai at the end of the day.

Grant