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Re: Layer?
Posted: September 9th, 2015, 9:08 pm
by peterb
I like layed option if you can get it to look like the virt
Peterb
Re: Layer?
Posted: September 10th, 2015, 8:27 am
by JaseH
Layer for me. Theres no taper or interest in the mid section - broadening the canopy wont fix this.
Re: Layer?
Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:32 am
by Steven
I'd definitely layer it

Re: Layer?
Posted: September 10th, 2015, 10:05 am
by Ces
I like it. I say leave it tall and broaden the canopy. The big long split in the trunk is interest enough for me
Re: Layer?
Posted: September 10th, 2015, 11:54 am
by treeman
Thanks for the replies. 10 to 5 for. I think the i's have it. (that should be spelt ''ayes'' - I never would've guessed!)
Only thing is, to grow thick roots like my sketch it would need to go back in the ground and the top would become very coarse which means.......

Re: Layer?
Posted: September 10th, 2015, 12:03 pm
by alpineart
Hi Treeman , mate I like that layered vert , it looks more balanced and refined compared to the original pic .
Cheers Alpineart
Re: Layer?
Posted: September 10th, 2015, 12:04 pm
by treeman
Ces wrote:I like it. I say leave it tall and broaden the canopy. The big long split in the trunk is interest enough for me
Broadening the canopy would be very easy. (and I like the ''African'' look) but I'm not really happy with the currant nebari and I don't know if this is the right species for the table top look?
UPDATE
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 1:55 pm
by treeman
Layering was successful.
There are a few gaps here and there but this species has a reputation of throwing out plenty of roots.
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Only a few roots were shortened. At this stage it is vital to arrange the roots so they leave the trunk as close as possible to 45 degrees. If you leave them more or less horizontal (as they come out of the layer) you will never get thickening in the lower part of the trunk and you will never achieve a good quality nebari. (I discovered this after a few mistakes in the past).
I used some wire hoops to hold the roots in place but what ever works....
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Also important to stabilize the tree well and to cover the new nebari with at least 30mm of soil.
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In just one year the quality and value of this tree have increased by 3 times!
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The pot will be used for this corky.
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Arty shot?.......
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Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 3:58 pm
by MoGanic
Excellent improvement. Glad the layer worked well.

Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 4:22 pm
by Watto
First one to put my hand up and say that I originally voted for no layer, but think the layer looks great, well done.
Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 4:31 pm
by CraigM
Good result, did you seal / treat the main trunk once separated?
Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 5:54 pm
by Rory
Hooly dooly.... Nice job mike!
I've not seen this thread before. I've never performed a layer before, but that is an amazing transformation.
Unfortunately for me I prefer the original tree, and growing the branches out more.
My only critique is that you spend too much time on exotics.
The native flora need your skills and guidance mike!
Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 6:27 pm
by treeman
CraigM wrote:Good result, did you seal / treat the main trunk once separated?
No not at all.
Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 6:34 pm
by treeman
Rory wrote:
My only critique is that you spend too much time on exotics.
The native flora need your skills and guidance mike!
Give me a chance will ya!
I have many in the ground, ( styphelioides and laevigatum) many more in pots (callistemons leptos baekeas etc. and loads of seeds ( I think about a dozen different species - some unusual) to plant this spring.
I'm going as fast as I can....

Re: Layer?
Posted: July 20th, 2016, 6:48 pm
by Rory
treeman wrote:Rory wrote:
My only critique is that you spend too much time on exotics.
The native flora need your skills and guidance mike!
Give me a chance will ya!
I have many in the ground, ( styphelioides and laevigatum) many more in pots (callistemons leptos baekeas etc. and loads of seeds ( I think about a dozen different species - some unusual) to plant this spring.
I'm going as fast as I can....

I probably should have expressed my reasons why I prefer original tree in this thread.
First off... I love what you have done with it. It looks beautiful and much more natural now.
But before it was such an unusual tree and very intriguing.
Anyway, back to this reply... I would love to see you grow casuarina and banksia. Your natural style would do wonders for them
By the way, I am looking forward to the update on your maple in spring.
