AusBonsai

miyagiman wrote:hey, i've come up with an idea. what about if the bonsai fraternity could infitrate the DSE & get some of them doing bonsai. maybe then we could get someone on our side & give us some secrets. miyagi.

thats an awesome idea lol
now who do we get to do this....

jamie, i believe we are , by our constitution ( at the moment), (moves are afoot to change it however), free individuals who have freedom of speech. whatever decision a bonsai enthusiast makes, i am sure he is only thinking of the welfare of the trees concerned. i don't see the greenies standing next to you shouting save the trees.
we're on our own here buddy. miyagi.

The Greenies would be more than happy for us to rid the land of exotic invasive pest species. They are correct when they say turning the soil leaves it open to invasion by weeds/pathogens...but hey, we are removing a weed and if it is replaced by a weed then what have we lost? Nothing. There has actually been a gain. There is still a weed there, but there is also a tree in a pot.

not natives???
then take takem out !!!

only a matter of time b4 the council does, slashm that is. ask permission? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i agree with this all the way, Being in S.A. the pine are being eradicated on the York Penincula.Theres some miles there to find somthing nice as it's a wind swept country, There are masses of olives to choose from one perticular spot is the local pool inside and out there are olives the ones inside are going to be removed at some stage ive been talking with the pool staff for 2 years now and it wont be long befor us S.A. folk to have another olive dig in balaklava.

BRB going to take a pic

Webos wrote:The Greenies would be more than happy for us to rid the land of exotic invasive pest species. They are correct when they say turning the soil leaves it open to invasion by weeds/pathogens...but hey, we are removing a weed and if it is replaced by a weed then what have we lost? Nothing. There has actually been a gain. There is still a weed there, but there is also a tree in a pot.

thats a win win situation way to look at it!

A friend of mine had a plum on the nature strip which was in the way so i asked if i could dig it. They said no probs so mr goody two shoes(me) went and asked the council for permission. They said they would get back to me and within two weeks they came down and cut it of at ground level,(pricks) moral....should have just dug it.

this seems to be leaning toward DONT ask because you will probly get the answer you dont want.
if ya gonna do it just dont get caught!

Hi

Once again try the trading post for house demolition.
dig for almost nothing . Beautiful trees .

No problem .

theres a good lead andrew. didnt think about that. will have to loook into it! good idea

Here is just one

Might be because more people have been suing councils around the country?

If we were on public land, digging, and fell onto a hole, break our legs, we then
sue them?

They are just protecting themselves?

Hi Guys i cant believe what i'm reading with a bad attitude or approach you will get the reply you deserve .I have collected trees for many years and NEVER been told to take a hike or given the run around . Councils , Landholders , Plantation corps have been and still are very receptive .

The D.S.E and Parks whether i like it or not dont allow it otherwise every man and his dog would be out there ripping trees out .It only takes 1 idiot to spoil my collecting by being an enviromental vandal .I take 1 person per year into the areas i have permission and that is the way it is . If they choose to return and remove material with permission then no doubt the powers to be will put a halt to my permission . Cheers

I have just recently had my first attempt at digging up a tree (That is an experiance that is not ever going to be repeated) but my opinion on asking permission is, if the site is not that well traveled (ie, no obnoxious sticky beak is likely to come past) then go ahead and dig, if caught, just act like you didn't know that you needed permission. chances are no one will question you being there.

Its much easier to beg forgiveness, than ask permission

Again we are discussing the merits and the wherefore of collecting. The best thing you guys can do is move West.
Where you can get a scientific licence to dig from the Dept C.A.L.M. Conservation and Land Management $ 10--00 per year.
Now don't all rush we have a rental housing shortage Pup
Now even though we can get these, there are restrictions that come with them.
Another interesting point is that even though it is a noxious weed or tree if it is in a National park ( here in WA ) if you dig it without permission.
The fines are up to $ 50,000 so if you want to take the chance go for it.

I do have one.
Pup

thats the go pup, why can't our lousy victorian government issue the same sort of thing, i wonder who we could talk to. that could solve a few problems for us. miyagi.