JBP seedling cutting 3 years old

[Bretts]

Youll have a sore arse by the time this tree is baked

[anttal63]

Youll have a sore arse by the time this tree is baked

[jamo]

Hi Brett, are you still growing using this technique? Would like to see any updated pics is you have them. I started this technique as well, maybe a year or so after that demo at Bonsai by the Harbour, and last 2 years have been using the cutting method from the Bonsai Today book with a high success rate. I've also got a mix of colanders/double colanders and terracotta orchid pots to experiment and see if there are any differences.

[daiviet_nguyen]

Hi Brett,

Great post. Thank you for the info I hope to see some updates too.

Best regards.

[Bretts]

By the dating on this thread this should make this tree about 5 years old now. I would not take that as too much of a guide as I reckon I have lost a good couple of years growth from learning as I go.

The tree went well after repotting then the following year slip potted it into an orchid pot.

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I think I had too much peat moss in the mix and although it still grew well I had trouble keeping it a dark green colour looking undernourished Over Winter this can get worse and this poor chap was pretty yellow. This spring I did not bare root but replaced as much of the soil as I could otherwise with mostly Akadama and also went into a bigger pot again.
This mix is much more free draining and it needed watering twice a day almost right away.
You can see in this picture that the green is now returning and despite this lack of nutrients the growth has been pretty good.

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Close up of the root base

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[Bretts]

Here are a couple of new ones I have started. Well these would be in their second or third year Sorry not great with keeping records But anyway if you did things right you could get this in even 1 year.

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By the second year the strongest seedlings will get the first pruning of the apex. Cutting in a straight manner about half the trunk will go above the level of the old needles. This should be done in early October.
I probably should have done 90% of mine this year but I only did a few and then missed the window so I will now leave it till next year for the rest. Many are due for a larger pot as well.

[Glenda]

Hey Jamie although slip potting is an important factor here I think another main one is getting teh roots right to start with. This is done at a very early age with these but I guess that could be adapted for an older tree. It is all about how many mouths there are more mouths(root tips) more food (nutrients) can be eaten.
I guess I better explain the first step of making cuttings out of seedlings but I will have to do that another day. Unless someone else wants too

Hi Bretts,

Please explain how you make a cutting out of a seedling. Perhaps it would be good on the Wiki, too.

Glenda

[Bretts]

Hi Glenda
This article explains it better than I could
http://bonsaitonight.com/2011/07/01/how ... lack-pine/

[Glenda]

Thanks, Bretts,

[Bretts]

There is a similar technique in the Bonsai Today Pines book, on page 140, using plastic collanders and a free draining mix, using heavy watering and feed. The article in the book discusses growing JBP, primarily shohin from seed and then cuttings from the emerging seedlings. There is no reason why this program as described could not be initiated from the second or third year as described, beginning with seedling material that is available everywhere in Australia. In 6-8 yrs, we could all be producing trees of the quality that are pictured in the book, of which there almost none in the country!

noah78 and I both have Yatsabusa JBPs from seed that would do this in 5yrs, were going to give it a go aren't we? (answer is yes mate!)

Cheers
MM

3 years on I am hoping you guys have something to show? I would love to see what you have been upto?

[alpineart]

Hi Bretts, any update on this process. Cheers Alpine

[Bretts]

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