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Grant
Thanks for the fantastic answer to my question in the other post. I like the rap!
Id never thought of doing this so structured, I remember Dorothy talking about rapping the roots of black pine in raffia and placing them under the surface of the soil.
I would think a good material for wrapping would be the plastic coated bitumen damp course builders use for the damp course under windows. It is both flexible and can hold a shape. I think you could create a twisted cone shape which would produce interesting results.

I have a few starters hanging around under my tables which I will try this on.

Thanks again. Look forward to meeting you one day.

how funky grant !!! thanks for sharing this one, i will definately give it a go. i must say though that one would have to be careful it doesnt look to contrived. which is something that age as always, will take care of. i imagine. the bonsai game is always about time, doesnt matter which way we spin it

Grant Bowie wrote:Its a ten or twenty year exercise so it should be right now or soon, don't wait for someday.

Ha ha well i am only 19 so i figure i have a year or two

and i don't want to suddenly get too many trees for me to handle
a slow progression works for me!

anttal63 wrote:how funky grant !!! thanks for sharing this one, i will definately give it a go. i must say though that one would have to be careful it doesnt look to contrived. which is something that age as always, will take care of. i imagine. the bonsai game is always about time, doesnt matter which way we spin it

What is most important for a great Bonsai?

Time!

That's a great technique. Look forward to trying it with some of the cuttings I just had strike.

One question, is the rootmass solid right the way through?

I was thinking that perhaps one could use a solid cone, then the roots, then the rubber cone, so the roots have less area that they need to fill in before they fuse, do you think this would work? You could remove the solid cone if need be.

Oh and that tree in the first post is alright to.

What happened to the rest if them? Sell them? Wonder if you couldtrack anymore down?

Cheers.

Jarrod wrote:That's a great technique. Look forward to trying it with some of the cuttings I just had strike.

One question, is the rootmass solid right the way through?

I was thinking that perhaps one could use a solid cone, then the roots, then the rubber cone, so the roots have less area that they need to fill in before they fuse, do you think this would work? You could remove the solid cone if need be.

Oh and that tree in the first post is alright to.

What happened to the rest if them? Sell them? Wonder if you couldtrack anymore down?

Cheers.

I presume the roots are solid all the way through, but I am not about to put a chainsaw through it to find out..

You could try a solid cone, or rock, or whatever.

I will have to come up with some "Rock" lyrics instead of the "Rap" lyrics.

And yes I sold them all years ago. There are two guys who are a few years into a similar technique in Sydney but I can't even get one out of them yet. So there may be some available in the future but who knows. Backyarders have varying results shall I say.

love the drawings

Grant Bowie wrote:I presume the roots are solid all the way through, but I am not about to put a chainsaw through it to find out..

but why not, I am just so interested!

Will look into it, also look into exposed root pines.

Nice one, Grant. Can't wait to give this a go. I'm assuming it'll work well fusing multiple cuttings/seedlings also?

Thanks

thanks for a great post, its great that you share info like this for us young-ins.
What a fantastic idea, this should certainly be a stickie in the tips, techniques section.....I'm looking at you Steven

I am curious as to the rubber used, I don't know what kind of rubber you are referring too, could you please elaborate on the best type? or would you recommend a solid cone like a modified funnel?

I am thinking this should be something we should all try, the worst that can happen is we fail

And don't say your too old, why not start it and have something to pass down to the young-ins of the bonsai community when the time comes that the arthritis sets in etc

Luke308 wrote:thanks for a great post, its great that you share info like this for us young-ins.
What a fantastic idea, this should certainly be a stickie in the tips, techniques section.....I'm looking at you Steven

I am curious as to the rubber used, I don't know what kind of rubber you are referring too, could you please elaborate on the best type? or would you recommend a solid cone like a modified funnel?

I am thinking this should be something we should all try, the worst that can happen is we fail

And don't say your too old, why not start it and have something to pass down to the young-ins of the bonsai community when the time comes that the arthritis sets in etc

Many years ago the pots from korea and japan came in sets with a lightweight rubber sheet between them to stop them from breaking and I used that.

Just go to Clark rubber and have a look. You could even use bubble wrap and then bicycle tire; it doesn't really matter. Just make it up as you go.

grant

Hi Grant,
Thanks for sharing. Is it possible to split the bottom of the trunk into quarters and stretch open to use along with this technique? If so, would the scars need to heal or would the roots fuse over them?
Cheers
Adrian

What a gold nugget find from 2009!

I have suspected there was a technique and drew conclusions as I have seen pots on top of another pots which sparked the idea.

Great to see this cements it!

Thanks to the digger post before mine for unearthing this and to Grant Bowie for sharing!

Awesome stuff appreciate gents

adge0001 wrote:Hi Grant,
Thanks for sharing. Is it possible to split the bottom of the trunk into quarters and stretch open to use along with this technique? If so, would the scars need to heal or would the roots fuse over them?
Cheers
Adrian

I have seen trunks split and roll over(Taxodium, Figs etc); you just need to make it realistic.

With a Pine tree the base does really fuse together in a random way so it may be difficult to split and keep it alive and realistic looking.

Grant

Out of interest Grant your Ash would't happen to have used this technique would it?

https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Ash