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Re: procumbens
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 3:10 pm
by Mbunro
nice tree, and nice discussion re the soil surface.. not that im anywhere near having anything show worthy its not something ive really ever thought about before. i have allways used a larger stone as a top dresing though, mainly so that when i water in a hurry i dont blast it back to bare roots.. that and i cant manage to keep moss alive for more than a couple of weeks.
its a big ask but i dont suppose you have any photos of this tree over its 30 years of training? it would make for a pretty impressive progression thread if you did.
Re: procumbens
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 5:38 pm
by Max
is it a Tanuki ? or would that be telling

Re: procumbens
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 5:41 pm
by terryb
Thanks for your clarification melbrackstone and discussion treeman

Re: procumbens
Posted: June 8th, 2018, 12:16 pm
by Matt S
Lovely tree Mike. I love the way the shari weaves it's way around and through the base, and the foliage isn't too manicured.
Surface moss can look very nice but there's no way I can get it to look like the Japanese examples with our climate. As long as the surface looks natural and matches the species/style of tree then use what works in your backyard.
Matt.
Re: procumbens
Posted: June 8th, 2018, 12:42 pm
by treeman
Mbunro wrote:nice tree, and nice discussion re the soil surface.. not that im anywhere near having anything show worthy its not something ive really ever thought about before. i have allways used a larger stone as a top dresing though, mainly so that when i water in a hurry i dont blast it back to bare roots.. that and i cant manage to keep moss alive for more than a couple of weeks.
its a big ask but i dont suppose you have any photos of this tree over its 30 years of training? it would make for a pretty impressive progression thread if you did.
I don't have many early pics of it but I do have a photo somewhere not long after I dig it up. Ill try to find it.
Re: procumbens
Posted: June 8th, 2018, 12:43 pm
by treeman
no idea wrote:is it a Tanuki ? or would that be telling

Wash your mouth out with soap!

Re: procumbens
Posted: June 8th, 2018, 12:48 pm
by treeman
Matt S wrote:Lovely tree Mike. I love the way the shari weaves it's way around and through the base, and the foliage isn't too manicured.
Surface moss can look very nice but there's no way I can get it to look like the Japanese examples with our climate. As long as the surface looks natural and matches the species/style of tree then use what works in your backyard.
Matt.
It's easy enough to transplant moss onto the surface a week or 3 before the show and keep it sprayed to get it to grow a bit but I agree with you. At home all you need to worry about is keeping the surface integrity so you can water and feed the thing properly. I find the crushed scoria is excellent for this.
On reflection, I did think that my surface looked a bit raw so I sprinkled a bit of very fine compost/peat over it and it looks better now. Darker in colour too.
Re: procumbens
Posted: June 9th, 2018, 8:00 am
by tgward
nice age and design as is -

-(just a thought) have you considered not changing the planting angle but 'leaning' it on an appropriate largish rock behind and under to give the base more breadth and a 'reason' for that base development.
Re: procumbens
Posted: June 9th, 2018, 1:18 pm
by treeman
tgward wrote:nice age and design as is -

-(just a thought) have you considered not changing the planting angle but 'leaning' it on an appropriate largish rock behind and under to give the base more breadth and a 'reason' for that base development.
It was leaning a lot more than it is now. I'm in the process of bringing it up closer to the vertical. I can't see any rocks in it's future. The main branch on the right will go eventually as well.
Re: procumbens
Posted: June 9th, 2018, 3:28 pm
by Keep Calm and Ramify