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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: July 15th, 2020, 7:31 pm
by MJL
Somehow missed this thread - you’ve gotta be stoked with those results. Great job R3!


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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: July 15th, 2020, 9:49 pm
by Ryceman3
MJL wrote: July 15th, 2020, 7:31 pm Somehow missed this thread - you’ve gotta be stoked with those results. Great job R3!


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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: July 16th, 2020, 9:25 am
by Mitch_28
Is it better to remove air layers in warmer weather or would prior to spring growing be ok too? Have a maple as well one that I'd like to succeed. Great work with yours!

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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: July 16th, 2020, 11:03 am
by Ryceman3
Mitch_28 wrote: July 16th, 2020, 9:25 am Is it better to remove air layers in warmer weather or would prior to spring growing be ok too? Have a maple as well one that I'd like to succeed. Great work with yours!

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Thanks Mitch. I think it’s absolutely fine to remove your layer prior to Spring, in fact I would say that it’s the ideal time to do it... providing of course you have plenty of roots on said layer. Good luck with it!
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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 19th, 2025, 2:55 pm
by Ryceman3
Update on the trident that I layered in the first post in this thread... it's been a while!
My hand on which direction to go was forced when what was the "left" branch of the tree died back and was removed. I decided to give the tree a rest at that point and just let it grow for 16 months or so. The remaining branch at the bottom was lacking in any shoots low enough down to give me a decent branch structure (I am going for something small here) so in late-November I decided to make my own and set an approach graft. Below is a pictorial timeline of the process.
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It was a pretty easy process really and looks to have been successful so I am thinking of setting another graft that will become my apex. Haven't done an approach graft before, so always nice to expand the skill set!
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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 19th, 2025, 4:36 pm
by TimS
Always good to see your deciduous work in addition to your pines mate. You've done the right think introducing the graft low down for a smaller tree going by what is shown in the photos, seems like there's not much else you can do with it really.

Horticulturally speaking the graft looks good, nice section of contact for the cambium, so here's hoping it all goes smoothly for you and you can turn it into a great little mini

Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 20th, 2025, 11:42 pm
by stork
Hi Ryceman can I ask was any thing done to the graft branch going into the graft site?
Was the branch left as it was and just inserted in the graft site?

Cheers George

Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 21st, 2025, 7:12 am
by Akhi
How long did that causing over on the approach take? And did you take any skin off the approach graft?

Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 21st, 2025, 9:26 am
by Ryceman3
stork wrote: January 20th, 2025, 11:42 pm Hi Ryceman can I ask was any thing done to the graft branch going into the graft site?
Was the branch left as it was and just inserted in the graft site?

Cheers George
I did remove the thinnest outer layer of "bark" to give the cambiums a direct point of contact but this branch was incredibly thin (not much more than 2mm at a guess) so in hindsight I doubt the risk of killing the graft branch to do that was really required.
Akhi wrote: January 21st, 2025, 7:12 am How long did that causing over on the approach take? And did you take any skin off the approach graft?
Callusing was about 6 weeks ... but again, this is a very thin graft so I would think that would have an impact on how long the graft takes to knit/heal into position.
The way to know if the graft is good is to look at the diameter of the branch at the entry and exit points. If you see in the earlier images when the graft was placed, the part coming out of the trunk (the "keep" section) is thinner than the entry point. At the time I removed it, the diameter between entry and exit points was the same, or maybe even bigger on the exit side. That tells me the graft is now receiving a direct line of nutrients etc through the trunk because it has bulked up more than the donor branch prior to the graft site.
I'm no expert on this though - just my understanding.
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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 24th, 2025, 9:36 pm
by Mitch_28
Nice one @Ryceman3, love your work

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Re: Maple Layers

Posted: January 25th, 2025, 10:20 pm
by Kiki71
It seems like a detailed and patient approach… WOW