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Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 1:46 pm
by Matthew
A very natural tree Mike and that Japanese picture is one of the most "natural" versions i've seen. I have a very old and very large deodar cedar that was trained formal upright style . It is the typical left , right, back etc branching but that was the style then following the Japanese blueprint to a tee . Its still very aesthetically pleasing to me though.
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 2:19 pm
by treeman
Matthew wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 1:46 pm Its still very aesthetically pleasing to me though.
Always the most important thing. The only problem is that they take 40-50 years before the rough bark develops. If you find a tree with rough bark, buy it!
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 2:30 pm
by treeman
Matthew post_id=277881 time=1588823218 user_id=379]
I have a very old and very large deodar cedar that was trained formal upright style
I think that Japanese one might be an old deodar.??
I love this pic of an old deodar forest in the Atlas mountains. Check out the branch that decided to be a tree.
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Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 3:12 pm
by Matthew
treeman wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Matthew wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 1:46 pm Its still very aesthetically pleasing to me though.
Always the most important thing. The only problem is that they take 40-50 years before the rough bark develops. If you find a tree with rough bark, buy it!
Bark is well developed all the way up the tree and branches . Has been in a pot since the seventies.
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Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 8:04 pm
by treeman
Matthew wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 3:12 pm
treeman wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Matthew wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 1:46 pm Its still very aesthetically pleasing to me though.
Always the most important thing. The only problem is that they take 40-50 years before the rough bark develops. If you find a tree with rough bark, buy it!
Bark is well developed all the way up the tree and branches . Has been in a pot since the seventies.
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Can we see the tree?
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 9:28 pm
by melbrackstone
Is this a cedar? There seems to be a lot of trees that look like this in the South Island of NZ
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Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 9:39 pm
by shibui
Almost certainly cypress - Cupressus macrocarpa. Lots grown in NZ and also in Victoria as windbreaks on farms. The Kiwis refer to them as Macrocarpa trees.
Unfortunately Cypress canker has killed most of the VIctorian trees now.
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 10:11 pm
by Matthew
treeman wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 8:04 pm
Matthew wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 3:12 pm
treeman wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Matthew wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 1:46 pm Its still very aesthetically pleasing to me though.
Always the most important thing. The only problem is that they take 40-50 years before the rough bark develops. If you find a tree with rough bark, buy it!
Bark is well developed all the way up the tree and branches . Has been in a pot since the seventies.
20200503_153655_resized.jpg
20200426_111238_resized.jpg
Can we see the tree?
Mike its quite overgrown atm as it had a hard cutback and wire this spring so im letting it growout for a season but ill get some.
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 9th, 2020, 9:31 am
by MJL
treeman wrote: ↑May 7th, 2020, 2:30 pm
I love this pic of an old deodar forest in the Atlas mountains. Check out the branch that decided to be a tree.
cedar fores.JPG
Mike,
Just went collecting cones and had to smile... two of the cedars that I am talking about have branches that decided to be trees. I'll take a photo when I get a chance but my phone is knackered at the moment.
Cheers,
Mark
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 9th, 2020, 2:29 pm
by Alex_B
Very beautiful tree, I really like the canopies you are developing treeman and I love the look of the rough bark.
Might have to pick myself up a ceder after seeing some of the trees in this post.
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 9:05 pm
by Matthew
Mike see attached. Its been allowed to grow free last few months. that pot on top is about 10 inches across. Ive had it for 15 years but its been in a pot since the late 70's
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Re: Cedar
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 9:29 am
by juan73870
Your trees are so inspirational, Matthew. I always love seeing your pictures. Treeman, I'm loving where you're cedar is going, too. Looks amazing!
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 3:35 pm
by treeman
Matthew wrote: ↑May 11th, 2020, 9:05 pm
Mike see attached. Its been allowed to grow free last few months. that pot on top is about 10 inches across. Ive had it for 15 years but its been in a pot since the late 70's
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Fantastic material Mathew. Now.... what are your plans?...
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 9:38 pm
by MJL
Matt and Treeman - you both have trees and collections that inspire us all. Amazing ....and your photos are appreciated.
I am intrigued at the bark discussion. I am not sure how old my cedar is but reading this thread- it may have a few years on it; here's the bark.
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This tree makes me feel like I almost have a bonsai to add to my collection of pre-bonsai!
Re: Cedar
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 12:02 pm
by treeman
MJL wrote: ↑May 12th, 2020, 9:38 pm
Matt and Treeman - you both have trees and collections that inspire us all. Amazing ....and your photos are appreciated.
I am intrigued at the bark discussion. I am not sure how old my cedar is but reading this thread- it may have a few years on it; here's the bark. IMG_3197.jpegIMG_3196.jpeg
This tree makes me feel like I almost have a bonsai to add to my collection of pre-bonsai!
Seems they start cracking bark at 40+ years.