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Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:16 pm
by Jamie
one other thing... the pic of how it is now is a completly different front then the first to isnt it??? you have done a complete 180 to the first pic yes???
jamie
ps. have you got any shots of the tree in between??
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:36 pm
by anttal63
jamie111 wrote:one other thing... the pic of how it is now is a completly different front then the first to isnt it??? you have done a complete 180 to the first pic yes???
jamie
ps. have you got any shots of the tree in between??
yes.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:38 pm
by Jamie
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:47 pm
by anttal63
jamie111 wrote:hmmmm.
with a ratio of about approx. 1.5:1 it seems to carry it so well due to the tapering of the trunk and the placement of branches i would think. moreso to the taper, going from a fat base to a slender top with a smooth tranistion of taper, i think this is what makes it carry quite nicely, i also think that the right hand branch you have got there thats nearly coming out of the tuber gives it a feeling of width in the middle without taking away from the taper
thats what i think any ways
and i think the point ya making is that this was done by chopping the trunks to create the taper yes ?
cheers
jamie
great taper unquestionably. branch/ subtunk on the right creates great perspective. the trunk, leaning back to the left 2/3 of the way up then forward and right for the last 1/3 puts the depth in the perfect place. all 3 of these factors together elongate the trunk nicely. the pot does play a part in this too, but am not happy with it. it will need to be changed at some time but is a hard one because of the dimensions under the soil.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:49 pm
by anttal63
the taper was created. with what options nature was nice enough to gives in this instance. the marriage minister was a dremel.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:50 pm
by Brandon
just wanted to put my 2 bob in and say, thats a nice looking tree, and a fantastic transformation!
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 9:55 pm
by Jamie
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 10:02 pm
by anttal63
mostly flare now, nebari is good, so no flat bottoming now.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 10:08 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
Hi Antonio,
That bonsai is worth keeping! I have not done any olive yet
I guessing that this is a temporary pot for it? I think a shallower and possibly wider pot
would actually accentuate the surface root. This pot is a bit of a distraction imo.
Best regards.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 10:38 pm
by anttal63
daiviet_nguyen wrote:Hi Antonio,
That bonsai is worth keeping! I have not done any olive yet
I guessing that this is a temporary pot for it? I think a shallower and possibly wider pot
would actually accentuate the surface root. This pot is a bit of a distraction imo.
Best regards.
hey viet, this tree is for keeps. yes on the pot. agreed to all. ive got a new one i want to put it in but shall have to wait and see if i can shoe horn it in. having said that. no hurry, theres more growing and developing to be done and will probably happen this time next year.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 10:41 pm
by Jarrod
another thing that makes the trunk look correct despite 1.5:1 proportions is the short branch lenght. This makes a trunk look larger in every respect.
fantastic tree mate.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 10:51 pm
by anttal63
Jarrod wrote:another thing that makes the trunk look correct despite 1.5:1 proportions is the short branch lenght. This makes a trunk look larger in every respect.
fantastic tree mate.
yes jezz the lack of foliage is the reason for all the focus. it will be interesting to see how the filling out interplays with the image. from the day i chopped it up,i saw this tree with a sparse hungry canopy, rather than heavy and hedgy. again time will tell. each new stage of developement is new grounds somewhat.
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 10:57 pm
by Jarrod
are you keeping short branches? or are you going to let them extend?
Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 8th, 2009, 11:41 pm
by Edward Scissorhand
anttal63 wrote:thank god for education. after many mistakes and mind changes. as of yesterday. it now has to fill out over the next few years and more refined carving needs to be done. i wish i could have my time with this tree over again but this is what it is .
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Hey Ant, your pics looks so much like a couple of my olives I did a few years back. My camera got wet in the rain last year so I cant show you what they look like this year, so photos below are from some years ago. I cant afford a camera until sometime next year as Im paying off a guitar. Anyway below are old photos from a few growing seasons back when I first worked on them. What do you reckon, they look like yours?
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Re: YAMADORI OLIVE
Posted: December 9th, 2009, 6:25 am
by anttal63
yeah ed very similar! cant wait to see them now. what kind of guitar???
