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Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 4:57 pm
by craigw60
I always advise customers to buy wisteria in flower. If they have been grown by seed or propagated from wood that has not flowered they can take many years to flower. Buying them with flower buds or in flower can save a long wait.
Craig

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 5:52 pm
by paddles
This is my wisteria, I bought it approx 8? yrs ago.... It was a bonsai starter from Gardenworld (collectors corner) 4 yrs ago, I threw it out (planted it into the garden, in a wine barrel, to be trained over an arch.) Last year, we tried to move the winebarrel (which disintegrated) and I dug out the resultant mess (the wisteria had suckered etc.... I managed to save the original plant, finding the wisterias all with massive netamode? attacks on it. I had to savagee the roots in no uncertain terms to cut away the damage. In all this time it has never flowered......

Since I am undergoing a ???? in how a tree can still be recovered, and having had several people point out that I have had it for long enough that it might just flower next year... or the year after :? I will persist with this tree for a little longer....


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I must also say that over the years this tree has nearly died from having dogs rip it out the pot, being repotted in the middle of summer, allowed to totally dry out from neglect... as well as on occasion being over fed, over watered etc.

for 4 years it had no pruning at all.

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 10:48 pm
by Asus101
paddles wrote:I managed to save the original plant, finding the wisterias all with massive netamode? attacks on it. I had to savagee the roots in no uncertain terms to cut away the damage. In all this time it has never flowered......
I dont think so, so far all the ones I collected had little lumps on the roots.

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: May 25th, 2010, 5:42 pm
by Shaggygirl
Am quite keen to see how you all go as having a Wisteria is my long term goal but not until I learn much much more methinks :D

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: May 25th, 2010, 5:46 pm
by Jamie
I dont think so, so far all the ones I collected had little lumps on the roots.
not 100% sure on this but wisteria could have the same as podocarpus on the roots there are little balls all over the roots, they have something to do with the intake of nitrogen, i cant actually remember what they are called i will have to get the book out i read about it in and get back to you.

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: May 25th, 2010, 7:42 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
Nodules?

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: May 25th, 2010, 8:54 pm
by Joel
Nitrogen fixation nodules. They are present on almost all plants in the Fabaceae (pea) family. Also present on some Casuarina species, weeds such as white clover, azolla, cynobacteria and quite a few others. It is a symbiotic relationship with a bacteria that converts atmospheric nitrogen (the most abundant thing in the air we breath) into nitrate; a form of nitrogen the plant can use. It effectively makes its own nitrogen fertilizer. That is why plants in the Fabaceae family are often used for "green manure".

Joel

Re: Miniature Wisteria starter

Posted: May 26th, 2010, 12:33 am
by MattA
Peter Valder is the man to go to for anything relating to Wisteria & related genus. Milletia are often mislabelled as wisteria usually with another name attached, often 'ko fuji' or 'no fuji'. They can be treated just like any other wisteria except with regards water, Milletia prefer to dry out a bit before a drink, Wisteria love their water.

On flowering, I have a Wisteria 'double dragon' that was bought in flower, in over 15yrs it has never flowered again . It is planted against a large Cedrus atlantica glauca, growing up into its crown & across into a neighbouring jacaranda. No flowers but the colour contrast is fantastic when its in foliage & even moreso when it is turning during autumn. Maybe not a good idea but I was trying to replicate how they are most often seen in the wild, growing up & thru pine and most often not close to water or even in moist ground.

I have read somewhere that Wisteria wood is more likely to rot out if kept dry than wet, can anyone confirm or debunk this?

Matt