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Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 3rd, 2010, 9:19 pm
by Petra
[quote="Jarrod"]I have a chainsaw if you wanna bring it over we can have a play?? Lol



Who needs a chain saw, just ask Jamie. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 3rd, 2010, 9:30 pm
by anttal63
Jarrod wrote:I have a chainsaw if you wanna bring it over we can have a play?? Lol

hard to do these virts. With out seeing the movement correctly and location of branches hidden in the upper section of the trunk I feel I can not give any more ideas to you. So bring it up one arvo, and let's play!

all good you guys have already made me think more! but i aint done and i know there are more virtulisti out there. so have a go for me. :D

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 3rd, 2010, 9:41 pm
by Kunzea
Just a quickie to ponder on - I wouldn't be worrying so much about the 'reverse taper'. People get over wrought about such rules. In this tree, as we see it here, the thickening of the trunk is not ugly, just different and part of the character of the tree. It it tapered smoothly, it would just be another 'nice' tree. With the taper, you stop and ask questions, think a bit, and possibily learn a bit about accepting an individual for what it is and then looking for the things it offers, despite these 'imperfections'. Maybe that is part of the modern 'cubist' bonsai, or just an expression of wabi sabi.

Have fun. It will be a great tree.
Kunzea

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 3rd, 2010, 9:48 pm
by Jamie
Petra wrote:
Jarrod wrote:I have a chainsaw if you wanna bring it over we can have a play?? Lol



Who needs a chain saw, just ask Jamie. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

to right! cut half way through with a pruning saw then start tearing, it looks more natural that way ;) :D
then use jin pliers for the rest!


jamie :D

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 6:24 am
by LLK
Don't be in too much of a hurry to chop it. The leaves are far too big for a small-to-medium bonsai and they don't reduce
well. The trunk is a nice size to start off with. Use backbudding low on the trunk to correct inverse taper gradually, that
species backbuds like mad. In brief: don't treat it like a Chinese elm or a trident.

Lisa

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 6:59 am
by anttal63
Kunzea wrote:Just a quickie to ponder on - I wouldn't be worrying so much about the 'reverse taper'. People get over wrought about such rules. In this tree, as we see it here, the thickening of the trunk is not ugly, just different and part of the character of the tree. It it tapered smoothly, it would just be another 'nice' tree. With the taper, you stop and ask questions, think a bit, and possibily learn a bit about accepting an individual for what it is and then looking for the things it offers, despite these 'imperfections'. Maybe that is part of the modern 'cubist' bonsai, or just an expression of wabi sabi.

Have fun. It will be a great tree.
Kunzea
kunz; i like ya thinkin; agreed with all. now where's ya virt??? :roll: :D 8-)

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 7:01 am
by anttal63
LLK wrote:Don't be in too much of a hurry to chop it. The leaves are far too big for a small-to-medium bonsai and they don't reduce
well. The trunk is a nice size to start off with. Use backbudding low on the trunk to correct inverse taper gradually, that
species backbuds like mad. In brief: don't treat it like a Chinese elm or a trident.

Lisa

thanks lisa :D 8-)

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 8:17 am
by Kunzea
Virt, schmirt!!@%* Not this year if we're all lucky.

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 8:44 am
by bodhidharma
Don Deluca advocates turning scarring into a feature of the tree and i am with him on this one. I have many trees where you can see work has been done and i dont think it detracts. It happens all the time in nature. A very nice tree ANT.

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 10:22 am
by anttal63
Kunzea wrote:Virt, schmirt!!@%* Not this year if we're all lucky.
oh kunz dont be like that :roll: :lol:

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 10:27 am
by anttal63
bodhidharma wrote:Don Deluca advocates turning scarring into a feature of the tree and i am with him on this one. I have many trees where you can see work has been done and i dont think it detracts. It happens all the time in nature. A very nice tree ANT.
dido; thanks bodhi. i dont compromise the design of the tree for the sake of not having a scar in the front. im not saying anyone has done that here intentionly. but this is what the text books teach us when we start out. chuck those text books out. :D 8-)

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 11:02 am
by Bretts
Put thjem on Ebay I'll buy them :lol: You just gota know how to read them ;)

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 12:23 pm
by anttal63
Bretts wrote:Put thjem on Ebay I'll buy them :lol: You just gota know how to read them ;)

i said NO! enough corruption to the bonsai community. :lol: :P :lol:

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 1:32 pm
by Bretts
From corruption to dictatorship :roll:

Re: SYZIGIUM AUSTRALIS / lillypilly

Posted: January 4th, 2010, 2:35 pm
by anttal63
Bretts wrote:From corruption to dictatorship :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol: