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Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: May 24th, 2011, 7:29 pm
by PaulC
Hi MattA,

All things said, just an aside...............

Am I wrong, but dosent Wistiria flower on OLD growth ?

So all the re-training, may not gain flowers.....as yet, depending if you keep or can sustain any older growth.

If I am wrong, ..........I am wrong !!

I am certain I will be corrected if I am.

Regards,


Paul.

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: May 25th, 2011, 8:45 am
by MattA
Hey Paul,

Your not wrong....Wisteria flower from the first few buds of last seasons growth..

If I was to prune heavily over winter I may remove buds but styling (bending etc) wont have any impact on them. The other thing that heavily influences flowering is sunlight... This vine grew in shade for many years & never flowered (part of why mum finally let me dig it out).

I am not overly bothered if it flowers or not, but it would be nice to see them for the first time in many years. It will be another 10-20yrs before this baby is really show ready & by then I hope it is flowering regularly...

Matt

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: November 21st, 2011, 11:30 am
by MattA
Well I didn't have to wait long...I was giving this tree its 3rd prune so far this season when I parted some leaves to find ....
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Its been removed along with all the new growth back to the 1st or 2nd leaf depending on internode & location on the tree.
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Matt

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: July 8th, 2012, 4:32 pm
by MattA
With the help of a mate we had this dug, bent, worked the roots over and had it back in the ground in under 30mins :D
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We managed to get a little bit of movement into the lower trunk, more bending will be done around mid summer once its got its roots down & solid again.
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This chunk was cut from the bottom of the roots to start training them for a pot, being a good 10+cm in dia I will clean it up & plant with some of the root exposed for a new tree in no time :tu:
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Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: July 8th, 2012, 6:45 pm
by Guy
I would be very tempted to turn it into two trees

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: July 8th, 2012, 7:55 pm
by MattA
Guy wrote:I would be very tempted to turn it into two trees
Your not the first to suggest it, I have in mind a big tree & 20yrs into growing it this hasnt changed. I have a tight chuhin one in the growing stages as well, another couple of years might see it ready for a pot.

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: July 8th, 2012, 8:49 pm
by Rintar
It really is beautiful Matt mate.


Jas

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 10:10 am
by MattA
After 2 years of proper pruning....
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More pics when they open :tu:

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 10:40 am
by Hackimoto
MattA wrote:Well I didn't have to wait long...I was giving this tree its 3rd prune so far this season when I parted some leaves to find ....
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Its been removed along with all the new growth back to the 1st or 2nd leaf depending on internode & location on the tree.
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Matt
What has happened there Matt is you have forced next years dormant buds into growth by pruning in late spring and summer. It is a good indication that you will get great flowering the next year as your current pic indicates. Looking forward to seeing it in all its glory. :tu:

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 11:13 am
by bodhidharma
I am looking forward to it also Matt. They are out a lot earlier than mine this year. I think i will have a bumper flowering year this year too :fc:

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 1:37 pm
by MattA
Hack,
Your spot on, however, if you do not prune in late spring & summer, those buds do not become flower buds the following year. Only with constant pruning thruout the growing season is flowering induced to its fullest.

Bodhi,
Its a little behind the sinensis but that is also earlier this year than usual.

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: September 10th, 2012, 8:04 pm
by MattA
I removed most of the buds last week but left these 3 to mature, the colour is alot darker than I remember :tu:
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Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: September 10th, 2012, 9:29 pm
by Hackimoto
Nice Matt. Can I ask why you remove the buds? :lost:

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: September 11th, 2012, 8:46 am
by MattA
Hack, it gets growing quicker with the flowers removed... these 3 have taken time to develop the buds fully and thus havent really started to grow yet, while the other parts are already pushing runners. It has more than a few years growing ahead of it so I will probably not let it flower again for a while.

Re: Wisteria 'Double Dragon'

Posted: September 11th, 2012, 9:09 am
by Hackimoto
Thanks Matt, With all respect I can't see the point in that, as it probably only sets it back for a couple of weeks and then it has another six months to grow like the clappers, which they do. I prefer to enjoy all the flowers then let them do their thing. ;)