I hate privet

[Jamie]

you shouldnt be able to find privet in the nurseries any more, it is a noxious weed. it should grow anywhere really, they are tough buggers! i just recently got my first two from matt

and you will probably have more luck getting that hedge if you ask, a good way bout it is to tell them it is a noxious weed and you will take it and control it rather then it setting seed and spreading, then you say you will replace it with a fast growing native

Sorry to say this, but I regularly see golden privet at bunnings.......... I wondered if it might be different somehow?

Glenda

no it wouldnt be a different species, quite often "noxious weeds" are sold at not only bunnings but othere nurseries aswell under a different name. i have seen some places sell a lot of "weeds" when they shouldnt be..

[Mitchell]

Interesting, if we are selling it, it isn't against the law then. We are patrolled heavily, in fact I was reading a warning the other day, to sell out of a plant and orders would cease on a now declared weed.

I'll try and find out, I am thinking Golden leaf privet may not be on the noxious list, just common privet.

[Pup]

As requested by that well known perv Kvan 64 here are some of the naked lady.

The measurements for those interested in ratio's, 10cm at 5cm up and 40 high.
I have decided after many years of neglect that I should do something with it.
The work has been two years now. When I picked it up to take the pictures, my bragging of it not rotting came undone the bottom 3.5cms has.
So there has to be some repair work done, I will use Dorothy Koreshoff's method with quick drying cement and some drawing of cracks to make it look like wood. Will do that in the next couple of weeks. Will take pictures of the process.

Cheers Pup

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[Pup]

Interesting, if we are selling it, it isn't against the law then. We are patrolled heavily, in fact I was reading a warning the other day, to sell out of a plant and orders would cease on a now declared weed.

I'll try and find out, I am thinking Golden leaf privet may not be on the noxious list, just common privet.

Mitchell the Golden privet is the same plant it will revert as has mine. The big store you work for get away with a lot of importing that is not allowed. We have at times been able to get Crab apples which are on the NO NO list of known plants I have two in my collection.
Cheers Pup

[bonzaidog]

Matt...pardon my "highjack"... [quote="Pup"] .
So there has to be some repair work done, I will use Dorothy Koreshoff's method with quick drying cement and some drawing of cracks to make it look like wood. Will do that in the next couple of weeks. Will take pictures of the process.

Hi Pup...I last spied your privet at the workshop, you were then heading down the path of a driftwood "graft" in the damaged area to restore taper ...I guess it didn't "float your boat" as they say,it will be interesting to see how the cement pans out. ....Dog.

[Mitchell]

Mitchell the Golden privet is the same plant it will revert as has mine. The big store you work for get away with a lot of importing that is not allowed. We have at times been able to get Crab apples which are on the NO NO list of known plants I have two in my collection.
Cheers Pup

What I meant by my statement was that, because we are patrolled so heavily, if we are selling something illegal we are normally picked up almost straight away. In the case of the "Golden leaf Privet" perhaps it has slipped past laws under a different name albeit the same plant?
I am aware we do sell noxious from time to time, we try our best not to though.

The issue seems to be, we are offered plants that are on the noxious list, it has amendments often both adding and removing species, our buyers are not knowingly selling things that are noxious as penalties are high, it seems more so a bit of a state of confusion. It really shouldn't be though as we don't want to be selling it either.

I did notice, I typed Privet into our database and came up with several items. Interesting, they may well be outdated listings not available anymore.


I believe Don Burke had a hand in making Golden leaf privet known. I'm sure he spoke of its attributes several years ago.

[Taffy]

you shouldnt be able to find privet in the nurseries any more, it is a noxious weed.

Jamie, I understand it is Ligustrum Vulgaris - Broad Leaf Privet plus a few of the other 50 odd species that are the declared weed. The Golden Privet is Ligustrum Ovalifolia (or Ovalifolium - depending on where you get it). There is another one - Ligustrum Ovalifolium Aureum which is sold in nurseries as 'Lemon, Lime & Clippers'. There are also other Ligustrum species that are not on the banned list.

Earlier this year Gardening Australia filmed a story mentioning Ligustrum undulatum, which is more commonly known as privet. We received many concerned letters and emails pointing out that privet is a weed. Certainly some varieties of privet are weeds, but not all. The confusion comes from the fact that all varieties are commonly called "privet".

So if you have a privet in your garden, how do you know which are a weed and which aren’t? "Privet" is the common name of the Ligustrum genus, which contains about 50 species of both deciduous and evergreen trees and shrubs. Ligustrum is part of the olive family. Many of the Ligustrum varieties have scented white flowers, followed by small blue black berries. The privet commonly grown as a hedge in many Melbourne gardens is Ligustrum undulatum. This usually doesn’t produce seed, it's not invasive, and so it's not classified as a weed.

However, several species of privet have invaded native vegetation and become weeds, particularly along watercourses around the country. The National List of Invasive garden plants lists three varieties of privet as environmental weeds. Ligustrum lucidum, also known as the glossy privet, the tree privet, or the broad leafed privet. Ligustrum sinense, also known as Chinese privet or hedge privet, and Ligustrum vulgare, also referred to as common privet or golden privet.

Some varieties of Ligustrum have the potential to totally dominate a water area. In fact in Queensland and New South Wales, where it's warmer, Ligustrum can really form impenetrable thickets. The plants produce masses or clusters of green seeds, turning purple when they're ripe. The birds eat them and disperse them along the waterways. They often fall into waterways and nestle in crevices in rocks and start to grow. They can also be dispersed in dumped garden waste.

A difficulty in identifying which varieties of privet are weeds is they have often naturalised, or taken over the land in varying degrees, in different parts of the country. This means classifying a certain variety of privet as an environmental, or even noxious weed, may be different in different Australian states. If you want to be a privet buster many local councils have privet eradication programs in place, as do public and private water utility companies. Environmental groups are doing a great job assisting in cleaning up infested areas.

If you have a privet in your garden, and you want to identify whether it is a potential weed, check with your local nursery, the council or the relevant Department of Primary Industry. And when you cut it down, dispose of it responsibly so it doesn't spread indiscriminately.

Source: http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s1366336.htm

[MattA]

As requested by that well known perv Kvan 64 here are some of the naked lady.

The measurements for those interested in ratio's, 10cm at 5cm up and 40 high.
I have decided after many years of neglect that I should do something with it.
The work has been two years now. When I picked it up to take the pictures, my bragging of it not rotting came undone the bottom 3.5cms has.
So there has to be some repair work done, I will use Dorothy Koreshoff's method with quick drying cement and some drawing of cracks to make it look like wood. Will do that in the next couple of weeks. Will take pictures of the process.

Cheers Pup

Pup,

I am interested to know why you are going to try and repair the rotting area rather than making a feature of it & carving a hollow? I see other scars further up the trunk, a slight turn clockwise to show them better would tie in with a hollowed out bottom half.

Just a thought

Matt

[kvan64]

As requested by that well known perv Kvan 64 here are some of the naked lady.

The measurements for those interested in ratio's, 10cm at 5cm up and 40 high.
I have decided after many years of neglect that I should do something with it.
The work has been two years now. When I picked it up to take the pictures, my bragging of it not rotting came undone the bottom 3.5cms has.
So there has to be some repair work done, I will use Dorothy Koreshoff's method with quick drying cement and some drawing of cracks to make it look like wood. Will do that in the next couple of weeks. Will take pictures of the process.

Cheers Pup

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Ooooh, she's bold, sexy and gorgeous. I love her back side alot. Wish I could lay my hands on her if you are not jelous
I heard that timber/wood filler is better as they can be carved and painted and would not fall off like cement. Please keep posted what ever you do with her.
Cheers,
DK

[Pup]

G,day Matt this has been suggested and looked at, it would need major work to bring those heavy branches around . It is still a possibility as I said some serious work after it being neglected, for so long.

Kvan if I go that way I will put some stainless steel screws, to hold so it will not fall off I have done this before, with rotten trees that have been given to me.

The next major thing is the re pot, I was hoping to get it done on Monday as we have a workshop evening at the BS of WA. Then I can re asses the situation.

Cheers Pup

[Jamie]

cheers Taffy

muchly appreciated and interesting read

Jamie

[MattA]

G,day Matt this has been suggested and looked at, it would need major work to bring those heavy branches around . It is still a possibility as I said some serious work after it being neglected, for so long.

Kvan if I go that way I will put some stainless steel screws, to hold so it will not fall off I have done this before, with rotten trees that have been given to me.

The next major thing is the re pot, I was hoping to get it done on Monday as we have a workshop evening at the BS of WA. Then I can re asses the situation.

Cheers Pup

Pup,

Now that you have decided to stop ignoring it on the bench I look forward to seeing hwo you proceed with it. I have only ever read the koreshoff method of using cement to patch so if you go that will I will be interested to see how it marries up with the real timber.

Matt

[purelydaniel]

I don't know why everyone is against privet so much, it's a weeds yeah and it can spread diease keep them away from other bonsai's but in saying that they make amazing bonsai and there are some knarly trunks out there. Up our way there are a shari load of privet and a lot good for bonsai I need to go dig up some more I know of about 10 all in the one place. Me and a friend went and cut them right down and majority of them were eaten away ate and were bonsai's already you could say. Just remember never put them near your trees and always spray your trees for mites and common bugs you would rather prevent and revive.

[Olivecrazy]

Nothing wrong with privet wish they gorw wild around me they fast growing take a beating at collection what more could you ask for really as for disease ive never seen a sick privet

[kcpoole]

I have never heard about them causing disease or issues with other plants?

I have a few and they on the benches with everything else

Ken