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Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 23rd, 2013, 5:10 pm
by Jason
Just don't let them dry out!!!! I was in a panic last week, forgot to water over two days, both relatively warm days, and it started to brown off and drop leaves very quicky.

Luckily with a bit of TLC... and seasol.... I was able to bring it back... but I was a bit paniced for a while. Is my 'best' bonsai, so don't want anything happening to it!

Question for you Pup, do they backbud well?

My little baby is due for a styling, but for the life of me... I don't know where to take it. Not that I'll be styling just yet, he's still looking a bit blue, so will give it a bit more love before tackling it

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 23rd, 2013, 6:51 pm
by Pup
Jason wrote:Just don't let them dry out!!!! I was in a panic last week, forgot to water over two days, both relatively warm days, and it started to brown off and drop leaves very quicky.

Luckily with a bit of TLC... and seasol.... I was able to bring it back... but I was a bit paniced for a while. Is my 'best' bonsai, so don't want anything happening to it!

Question for you Pup, do they backbud well?

My little baby is due for a styling, but for the life of me... I don't know where to take it. Not that I'll be styling just yet, he's still looking a bit blue, so will give it a bit more love before tackling it
I have had mine to back bud freely as a young tree, but not so on the older one. Remember wind is more dangerous than the Sun when it comes to watering.

Cheers Pup

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 23rd, 2013, 7:07 pm
by Jason
Pup wrote:
Jason wrote:Just don't let them dry out!!!! I was in a panic last week, forgot to water over two days, both relatively warm days, and it started to brown off and drop leaves very quicky.

Luckily with a bit of TLC... and seasol.... I was able to bring it back... but I was a bit paniced for a while. Is my 'best' bonsai, so don't want anything happening to it!

Question for you Pup, do they backbud well?

My little baby is due for a styling, but for the life of me... I don't know where to take it. Not that I'll be styling just yet, he's still looking a bit blue, so will give it a bit more love before tackling it
I have had mine to back bud freely as a young tree, but not so on the older one. Remember wind is more dangerous than the Sun when it comes to watering.

Cheers Pup
Thankyou kindly for that Pup :)

Hopefully one day it'll be a cracker tree like your's :fc: long ways to go yet

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 24th, 2013, 9:09 am
by maple
Pup wrote:Here is the little M, incana that had a traumatic start to life. It has now started to get where the journey leads. We are often asked about Australian style.

My Cheers :) Pup
Hi Pup,
nice tree!
I think I understand the Australian style theory but do you generally wire out foliage pads to ensure the sub branches are tidy and to also let light in? Would you spend as much time wiring your Natives as you would a Maple or a Conifer for instance.
I am not referring to yourself or your trees but sometimes people percieve Natives can be left "feral" or "natural" and just tip pruned to shape. The really good Native Bonsai (to me) have been trained and wired out.

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 24th, 2013, 11:10 am
by Pup
maple wrote:
Pup wrote:Here is the little M, incana that had a traumatic start to life. It has now started to get where the journey leads. We are often asked about Australian style.

My Cheers :) Pup
Hi Pup,
nice tree!
I think I understand the Australian style theory but do you generally wire out foliage pads to ensure the sub branches are tidy and to also let light in? Would you spend as much time wiring your Natives as you would a Maple or a Conifer for instance.
I am not referring to yourself or your trees but sometimes people percieve Natives can be left "feral" or "natural" and just tip pruned to shape. The really good Native Bonsai (to me) have been trained and wired out.
All my trees get wired to start with the like all Bonsai are, just wired when needed again. Pruning to open them up to let the sun in is also an ongoing thing.
When my collection was larger than now and I got behind like I am now, I used hedge sheers to prune them back. So I could keep them back for refinement.
Then I could see where they needed to be worked on.
All trees should be let to run after about 5 seasons for one season, so that they gain vigor. A bit like humans needing a holiday.

Cheers Pup

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 24th, 2013, 11:18 am
by joannm
thanks pup ,
the old one is still looking pretty unfit. but as it is starting to grow again I think it will be a year or 2 before it can go into a bonsai pot. The other 3 are just a few years old .
so guess they will be destined to go into one of my future penjings.
I say future as I can't find the time to make pots for myself .. need to learn to say No to others :palm:
joann

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 24th, 2013, 6:43 pm
by Ces
Pup wrote: All trees should be let to run after about 5 seasons for one season, so that they gain vigor. A bit like humans needing a holiday.

Cheers Pup
Hey pup,

by this do you mean 5 seasons or 5 years? I have heard people refer to seasons with both meanings.

Cheers,

Ces.

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: October 24th, 2013, 10:16 pm
by Pup
Ces wrote:
Pup wrote: All trees should be let to run after about 5 seasons for one season, so that they gain vigor. A bit like humans needing a holiday.

Cheers Pup
Hey pup,

by this do you mean 5 seasons or 5 years? I have heard people refer to seasons with both meanings.

Cheers,

Ces.
OOPS yes I see what you mean. I usually let mine have their head after about 4 years of work then let them run for a year or two, to gain vigor.
With natives because they can have anything up to 8 growth spurts in one year, you can cut this to about 2 years and let them go for a year

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: November 28th, 2013, 1:49 pm
by joannm
OUCH these little guys are not happy. looks like I am going to loose 2 out of 3.
root pruning must have gone toooooooooooooooo faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrr

Pup they don't like me :palm:

But big one has recovered very well, untangled root system and tucked it in carefully.
promised it I would make an extra nice pot to live in.
will charge myself big dollars , that way the plant will think it must be very very special. :lol: :lol: :lol:

So how long will it take till I convince myself they are maybe or maybe not still alive :?: :whistle:

joann

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: November 28th, 2013, 2:01 pm
by Ces
Pup wrote:
Ces wrote:
Pup wrote: All trees should be let to run after about 5 seasons for one season, so that they gain vigor. A bit like humans needing a holiday.

Cheers Pup
Hey pup,

by this do you mean 5 seasons or 5 years? I have heard people refer to seasons with both meanings.

Cheers,

Ces.
OOPS yes I see what you mean. I usually let mine have their head after about 4 years of work then let them run for a year or two, to gain vigor.
With natives because they can have anything up to 8 growth spurts in one year, you can cut this to about 2 years and let them go for a year
Hey pup,
I missed your reply earlier. Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,

Ces.

Re: Melaleuca incana nana

Posted: November 28th, 2013, 2:01 pm
by Ces
Pup wrote:
Ces wrote:
Pup wrote: All trees should be let to run after about 5 seasons for one season, so that they gain vigor. A bit like humans needing a holiday.

Cheers Pup
Hey pup,

by this do you mean 5 seasons or 5 years? I have heard people refer to seasons with both meanings.

Cheers,

Ces.
OOPS yes I see what you mean. I usually let mine have their head after about 4 years of work then let them run for a year or two, to gain vigor.
With natives because they can have anything up to 8 growth spurts in one year, you can cut this to about 2 years and let them go for a year
Hey pup,
I missed your reply earlier. Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,

Ces.