Page 2 of 3
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 1:34 pm
by Leigh Taafe
Yours must be well on the way then. I will eagerly await your post.
Peter
PeterW wrote:
That is certainy an impressive root system Brett. Havent got the mag but will definately be on the lookout for it.
Peter
Dont listen when I say it... Cant listen to a beginner heavens no...
I dont think it is because you are a beginner, I think he has some other issue he cant get over. There is a similar theme in every post I see you involved in, kinda childish really.
I am happy to take advice from any person, beginner or not.
Cheers,
Leigh.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 1:39 pm
by anttal63
heres a mugo that hardly had 1/3 of these roots, now after 2 years in a collander, then collander placed in a deep pot of soil. my blacks will get a repot this coming spring and i will also post.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 1:46 pm
by Asus101
Ledanta wrote:
I am happy to take advice from any person, beginner or not.
Thanks mate.
I just want to spread what I have spent my time reading about. Ok, so I haven't got the physical backing, but doesn't mean the article didn't exists.
I don't have the money to go out and pick up anything to do anything I read ( I want too... ) so when I can share it with others, I am happy.
There isn't much to do in the desert guys but read. I know how to find what I need, I can do it rather well and I store it away for later use.
Beginners can do many things, with in 9 years a beginner can have a tree in Kokufu ten if he knows what he is doing.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 1:48 pm
by Leigh Taafe
Beginners can do many things, with in 9 years a beginner can have a tree in Kokufu ten if he knows what he is doing.
True.
Mario Komsta did it with his Red Pine.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 2:28 pm
by anttal63
its all relative gentlemen show me the tree and i'll listen. doesn't matter what stage you're at. sad but true thats life. komsta has done it not is talkn about it. there's a big difference. now before you take that the wrong way i hope you go on to kick some serious bonsai arse asus. it would make me proud. but your correct info is not always in the posts in the right time and place and can sometimes annoy. no disrespect but this is how i see it and read it.

Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 3:45 pm
by PeterW
Ledanta wrote:Yours must be well on the way then. I will eagerly await your post. Peter
PeterW wrote:
That is certainy an impressive root system Brett. Havent got the mag but will definately be on the lookout for it.
Peter.
Dont listen when I say it... Cant listen to a beginner heavens no...
I dont think it is because you are a beginner, I think he has some other issue he cant get over. There is a similar theme in every post I see you involved in, kinda childish really.
I am happy to take advice from any person, beginner or not.
Cheers,
Leigh.
Leigh, the quote above that you have my name on, isnt from me mate. "Dont listen when i say it.. Cant listen to a beginner heavens no..." That actually has said by Asus. You are correct with your thoughts that there is more to it because yes there is, i have been insulted by the boy in question once too many times. If i missed his advise in a post of his its because i simply dont read his posts anymore, nothing more sinister then that mate. The offending posts have been removed by the moderators because he cant manage to keep it civil Leigh. I really would have expecpected better judgement from yourself Leigh, by fuelling these things is adding to the bad feelings in forums. It makes people want to leave, have you not been made feel welcome here or something? I am happy for you to accept advise from beginners mate, quite frankly i couldnt care less who you accept advise from, and i am sure noone else here would care either. Its your choice, why would i care.
Regards
Peter
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 3:49 pm
by PeterW
anttal63 wrote:heres a mugo that hardly had 1/3 of these roots, now after 2 years in a collander, then collander placed in a deep pot of soil. my blacks will get a repot this coming spring and i will also post.
Nice one Ant. I assume thats prior to cutting roots? I am starting to use colainders more often now. I made a big screen sided box for my maple and i use the little orchid pots for the wee little trees.
Peter
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 4:26 pm
by Leigh Taafe
You are right Peter, I do not feel welcome here.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 4:45 pm
by anttal63
Ledanta wrote:You are right Peter, I do not feel welcome here.
thats not too fair leigh. what has anyone done to make you feel not welcome?

Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 10th, 2009, 6:21 pm
by Asus101
https://www.bonsaikc.com/seedlings.htm
Chris is a student of boon, knows his pines well. It should provide some useful information.
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=293Has some examples from soltan.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 8:54 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
Hi Peter,
Thank you for these pictures. I missed the forum by about 3 to 4 weeks
5 to 6 years, that put me to shame. I have some pines for 3 years now and they seem to move nowhere.
These pictures give me hope
Hi Paul,
I understand what you say about roots on young seedlings not spread out most of the times.
Apart from "possible killing", it is the time and the pot factors as well -- it is hard to find
shallow and wide (training) pots at affordable prices. It takes considerably longer to untangle
the roots of a seedling and pot it into a shallow pot.
We do not have people specialise in pure bonsai starting material I guess?
Regards.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 8:58 pm
by Asus101
daiviet_nguyen wrote:
Apart from "possible killing", it is the time and the pot factors as well -- it is hard to find
shallow and wide (training) pots at affordable prices. It takes considerably longer to untangle
the roots of a seedling and pot it into a shallow pot.
We do not have people specialise in pure bonsai starting material I guess?
Regards.
Check, ebay for squat pots.
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 9:01 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
Thanks Ben. Cheers

Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 9:21 pm
by Hector Johnson
Message Deleted
Re: Japanese Black Pines
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 9:42 pm
by brenden
Hector Johnson wrote:Personally, I'd like to see more posts by the skilled practitioners and fewer by the relatively unskilled hobbyists like me.
Agreed Hector but I still personally appreciate reading the experiences (be it bad or good) of fellow beginners like me. Disaster stories have good lessons associated to them
I would love to see more pictures of experienced growers trees, particularly of Australian species plus any tips that help them achieve what they created. At least if we see the pics we can ping back with particular "how did you..." questions.