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Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 5th, 2011, 10:46 pm
by alpineart
Dwi wrote:Good progression Alpine.

I like your style, you think of doing a project and then just go for it - and no pussy-footing around! Where there's a will........

Be interesting to see this with those three leaders fused together. Do you think there would be a danger of snapping them all off the remnants of the trunk?


Hi Dwi , No good pussy footing around , never get the work done. I was concerned when i rotated the lower sections below the first branches that i may dislodge the leaders ..Rotating 90degree's in 60mm is a big ask but the OH BUGGER moment was when i put the bends in after rotating possibly over stretch the fibers .The plan is to compress the base of the leaders as they are using a worm drive hose clamp , this will produce the hollowed sections and meet about 50-60mm above the old stump top , then fuse and repeat another smaller hollow higher up using more hose clamps .

I can safely open up the area's required for fusing simply by slicing the raffia out and cutting a small section for wire out where the will touch .The remnant of the old trunk is about 6mm thick and quite pliable so i will have to do it over the coming weeks if it to happen at all .The old trunk may distort some-what but to me thats character .Cheers Alpine

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 5th, 2011, 10:58 pm
by alpineart
Hi Dario , rarely do i use a wood hardener, i fact i dont think i have ever used one .I have used Steri-prune but that's more for the asthetics because i don't particularly like Bleached Blondes .I did used lime sulphur on a couple of Phoenix Grafts but i should have added some black ink or paint to tone it down .The apex of the old trunk was as "Hard as a cats head" when i drilled it .No rot in there over the last 10 years so i wouldn't bother with hardeners . Steri- prune should be re-applied about twice a year until the timber dries and hardens naturally . Cheers Alpine

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 10:04 am
by chiah
great work.. and interesting.... thanks for posting...

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 11:29 am
by alpineart
Thank Chiah , its been a good project .Cheers Alpineart

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 11:39 am
by alpineart
With such a perfect day for a good snow shower i decided another R D O "required day off" was on the cards .Just finished playing with my obsolete broom . Now i have a hollow trunk informal upright .
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Very happy with the final design . On to the next project trainer. Cheers Alpineart

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 1:09 pm
by cre8ivbonsai
Wow nice progression and transformation! ... you've given me the inspiration of how to tackle a problematic tree of my own :worship:
Thanks, Ryan

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 1:35 pm
by alpineart
Hi cre8ivbonsai , thats what its about . Creative Bonsai .Cheers Alpine

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 1:53 pm
by Matthew
alpine im sure you could of made a great torturer for any government wanting information :shock: :shifty: im hearing that snow just about to fall. MAN its cold! i havent seen my bonsai in 3 days :(

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 2:03 pm
by alpineart
Hi Mathew , mate my roots go back to Robert the Bruce , stretching racks , burn them at the stake , be-head them .Fun and games .Its bloody cold alright , now this is winter even for me .You might end up with a good dusting tonight , makes a real nice photo of your Bonsai .I have one here somewhere when it dumped 4 inches of snow in December 27 2001, mate it was Summer then .Cheers Alpine

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 8:56 pm
by Jamie
heres one idea I had a play with Alpine :D

its probably a little more informal upright/pine style than you are after but I am still having a play around and this one sort of just flowed while I was virting :D
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more to follow :D

Jamie :D

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 9:10 pm
by alpineart
Hi Jamie , looks like the tree now .Can you add a full airy broom type canopy top 50% and thicken the branch pads but open and expose the hollowed trunk above the 3 main branches to this vert .Bloody big ask :?: Looks pretty close to the idea now .Mate i have got to learn to use these boat anchors better and do this vert caper . I have programs but i need a program to help me learn the program .Thanks for the effort .Cheers Alpine

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 6th, 2011, 9:17 pm
by Jamie
hi mate :)

not a prob, you know i am happy to help where i can, i will get onto the stuff your asking for mate!

what i will do when i get the time in the near future i will do a how to on virtuals and try and make it easy to follow and understand :) honestly there isnt a great deal to what i do, mostly it is cut and paste of other pictures that i make into the one tree. i have a few little tricks that does make things easier :shifty: :tu: sharing is caring after all :)

jamie :)

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 8th, 2011, 11:19 am
by Jamie
gday Alpine :D

here is an updated virt for you with some foliage on it and some deadwood, could really hollow the trunk right out if you like?
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and a slightly different option again -
virt for alpine elm 3.jpg
hope it helps :D dunno if you seen but i have also put up a virtual tutorial on how I do them. :D

jamie :D

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: July 8th, 2011, 11:49 am
by alpineart
Hi Jamie , now that's getting close to what i envisage it will be just i hollow up the trunk and expose the mid section .Iplan to grow the tree up another 100-150mm so exposing the trunk line will be a priority ...I'm not keen on formal brooms so in this virtual its a better looking tree now than the tree i started with .Thanks for you efforts , and yes i have had a look at the HOW TOO , now all i need to do is get me old head around it .Very basic once explained , but a real minefield if you don't understand BOAT ANCHOUR Lingo . Cheers Alpine

Re: Chinese Elm hollowed broom

Posted: October 19th, 2011, 10:49 pm
by alpineart
Well the torture is over and only one casualty which happened to be a main side branch . The hose clamp done the job required to reduced the bulge in the base .
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Now it can grow on and fuse the apexes together . The mid section wrapped is only for movement and to enhance the hollow sections from the base to the apex .
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In need of a good trim but i will allow this free reign for this season to aid fusing of the apexes and to thicken and strengthen the the original 3 leaders . Cheers Alpineart