To dig or not to dig?

Discussions about propagating from cuttings, seeds, air layers etc. Going on a dig (Yamadori) or thinking of importing? Discuss how, when and where here.
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Re: To dig or not to dig?

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I went through the environment of Land and water here in NSW asking about digging exotics from the side of the road. I also enquired about a permit to dig in national parks as Asus had told me there was such a thing.
There does seem to be a permit you can get for digging natives out of national parks but I was not interested in this at the moment. They did not know what do do when it came to exotics. One lady said "You want a permit to dig weeds from the side of the road" Well yes I guess so I said :lol:
I was put onto the RTA and when I contacted them the guy I got was very helpful but he stated that they only control the water drain beside the road but I was welcome to dig there as long as I did not get run over. There was no permit but he wrote my name in his book and I have his contact details. He was very impressed that I made certain comments about not collecting from banks or other areas that would be an erosion threat.
I was told although there was no permit to dig exotics from national Parks I just had to clear it with the head Ranger for that area. One I called was no worries but he had no exotics he knew of. ( that was a trail run for the one I really wanted) The one I really wanted was more hesitant but I did not get a no. We agreed to meet in the future after he sees how we go collecting Fire thorns and cotoneaster just outside the national park. After re-visiting the area I can see his concern as there are many that surround a steep cliffed pond and you could make a mess if you weren't carefull. This is A submerged cave area. So I will see if I can line that up for next year.
I called the council about another area and was told to put in a letter to the general manager or some crap. Call me pessimistic if you like but anyone that is not willing to chat on the phone about these things to clarify I don't believe I will get any good response from.
Whatever you do you just can't take the attitude of I will do as I please it sets a really bad example and then we all wear it. I understand that some of these departments would rather chat on the Internet :P than do their job so it is up to you to do what they should be doing. Research make a checklist of do's and don'ts get educated about the possible issues of this collecting, soil pathogens, diseases and such. Find a department that will be helpful. A very good read was the information on when permits could be given for removal of trees on private property that farmers would get. If I find that again I will post a link.
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Re: To dig or not to dig?

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Great idea Miyagiman, to infiltrate the DSE, except none of us are good enough at lighting fires that burn out of control for weeks or going under the radar at Royal Commissions. :evil:
We'd never get through he door 'cause the DSE prime function is to be an agency of the Victorian Government specialising in greenwashing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwash and is set up as boys club for village idiots........what is George W doing now that he is retired from his duties Washington?

Our local DSE village idiot is in cahoots with logging operators and firewood moguls who are "overseeing the cleanup operations" in state forest that was impacted by the February bushfires. Hmm........

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it so please's me to see this thread is alive and well !!! :D

no doubt about it this topic always causes a stir. :P
legions come together pick up a shovel and lets rip those weeds !!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:
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Re: To dig or not to dig?

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anttal63 wrote:it so please's me to see this thread is alive and well !!! :D

no doubt about it this topic always causes a stir. :P
legions come together pick up a shovel and lets rip those weeds !!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:
oh man your right about contraversial...better than a movie this topic is.. :lol:
gotta be truthful tho, who doesnt like to get back at the goverment every now and again... :twisted:

but all in all things have been said in this topic that is all true. both pro and con..
criminal or not? pulling something that is called a "weed" from our land is considered a problem? the governing agencies think so, but why? is doing the councils (or whoever is in charge of this particular thing) job for them a crime, really they should be thanking us..
plus we pay their wage through our taxes.. i think i pay enough tax to cover a tree here or there of the side of the road if it is just gonna get hacked up by a slasher or bull dozed for roads...
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amen brother jamie. :P
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Just a few pics from my camera phone (not very good quality)
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Re: To dig or not to dig?

Post by Jamie »

mate it looks secluded, rip em out! :twisted:
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