x2 JBP Shohins

[Jow]

Thanks Jow for this insight into your basic pine routine, very easy to follow.

Your second shohin pine is doing marvelously now. It put out some crazy growth this spring and throughout summer from a good fertilizing regime of mine.
I thinned her out last week and she is recovering as I am doing others now.

Regards,

Han.

Glad that the tree is growing happily and you are enjoying it, they do love a good feed! You will have to share some pics in the coming years as it progresses.

Thanks also for the comment Anthony, The work is not difficult and provided you are consistentyou end up with good results.

Joe.

[Scott Roxburgh]

Great development in a relatively short period of time. I think this shows that the techniques work...viewtopic.php?f=131&t=9958&p=120367

[hugh grant]

its to do with the time between cutting the candles and Autumn/ winter stopping growth.
After cut the candles the new growth that emerges only has a limited time to mature so the needles it grows are shorter. If you cut early they have more time and grow longer. If you cut later they have less time and are shorter...... to a point. If you cut too late the tree will bud up but will not produce the second flush of growth, instead just bud out the following spring.

Warmer climates have longer growing seasons so you can cut later because the growth will stop later than colder climates.

Hope that helps.

Thanks heaps mate that makes sense. i appreciate the advice

Hugh

[Jow]

Great development in a relatively short period of time. I think this shows that the techniques work...viewtopic.php?f=131&t=9958&p=120367

Hi scott, you are right, i get good results using this technique but i can understand that it is not everyones cup of tea. I have been using it since 2007 and have found it to produce reliable and consistant results.

What ever technique people use, they should make sure it consistantly produces the results they are after.

Joe.

[Jow]

its to do with the time between cutting the candles and Autumn/ winter stopping growth.
After cut the candles the new growth that emerges only has a limited time to mature so the needles it grows are shorter. If you cut early they have more time and grow longer. If you cut later they have less time and are shorter...... to a point. If you cut too late the tree will bud up but will not produce the second flush of growth, instead just bud out the following spring.

Warmer climates have longer growing seasons so you can cut later because the growth will stop later than colder climates.

Hope that helps.

Thanks heaps mate that makes sense. i appreciate the advice

Hugh

No problems.

[FatMingsBonsai]

Thanks Jow for this insight into your basic pine routine, very easy to follow.

Your second shohin pine is doing marvelously now. It put out some crazy growth this spring and throughout summer from a good fertilizing regime of mine.
I thinned her out last week and she is recovering as I am doing others now.

Regards,

Han.

Glad that the tree is growing happily and you are enjoying it, they do love a good feed! You will have to share some pics in the coming years as it progresses.

Thanks also for the comment Anthony, The work is not difficult and provided you are consistentyou end up with good results.

Joe.

Will do !!

Cheers,

Han.

[Jow]

Well its been 5 years since I started this thread and one year since I last updated. Its interesting to see how the tree has improved over the years.

I am starting to do needle work in my garden at the moment and this little guy was first on the bench. You can see how well the needles have reduced from the few long old needles on candles that weren't cut during de-candling that are visible in the before picture compared to the new growth. I cut these few stray needles to match the length of the new needles for the after pic.

After cleaning up this little guy i cant wait to get into the others.

Needle plucking takes longer and longer times to complete each year as the branches ramify.This year i spent 3 hours pulling needles and removing shoots on this shohin. The larger trees will take longer than that again I think although it is easier to access the needles in the less compact larger trees. It could do with a un-wire/re-wire which I hope I will get around to this winter. In the mean time hear are the most recent pics.

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Before

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After

[63pmp]

Nice Joe. Thanks for the update.

And thanks for the blog posts, I'm enjoying them as well.

Paul

[Scott Roxburgh]

Hopefully in a few years it will end up like this....

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A pretty accurate prediction...I'd be stoked with the progress, one of the best shohin pines in Australia

The pot is a better match too, what is it?

Have the teabags helped with the breakdown of the cakes this year? I've had trouble keeping the cakes up to the trees with increased watering this year.

[Jow]

Thanks for the replies Paul and Scott,

I don't know about it being the best shohin JBP in Australia Scott... it has its faults, but appreciate the comment. It has certainly been nice to watch it improve year after year.

The pot is a mass produced Japanese one that although of a better size/shape is not a perfect match. I have a bikoh with cloud feet that is both a much nicer finish and colour and should fit it. It might get slipped into that this re-potting season.

The fert-bags are great. I was trailing them this year and i am so pleased with how they went i will be using them from now on. I think the easiness of applying them above all else is meaning i am feeding much more regularly which my trees are responding well to. Also helps that they don't clog the soil.

Joe

[mwkoi]

Great tree!

Proves what patience and sticking to the right technique year in year out does to a tree.

Will only get better and better with time.

Regards
Mark

[Jow]

You are absolutely right Mark, making good bonsai is simple. Good technique over a long period of time.

Problem with this little tree is it has suffered a few insults as i learned and fine tuned my techniques. That means that i will be looking to remove sections of the branching and replace it with better growth over the next few years. But that is all part of the fun!

[Jow]

Well, a couple more years have past. I've learnt more an improved my work and this little tree has been slowly growing out my previous mistakes.

The last few nights after work I've been sitting down with a few rolls of copper wire and working my way through this tree. It wasn't styled last year and was only de candled as I didn't have the time to get to it.

I am finally happy with its shape and although it's not a perfect example by any means I am enjoying looking at it again.

Next up I need to spend a few more night tweaking the foliage and repotting it into a nicer pot. Probably a bigei I picked up in Japan during one of my last visits.
Any way. Here is the result thus far.

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[Scott Martin]

I like it mate. Nice flow to it and developing nicely.

Really good to see how it's progressed over time too.

[Elmar]

Nice.
Bottom left branch seems long, BUT I have no experience with pines! Just my first impression...
But overall it looks nice!
Well done.


Cheers
Elmar