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Re: A SHORT RECENT HISTORY OF A BOUGAINVILLEA.
Posted: February 14th, 2009, 12:31 am
by Asus101
Hector Johnson wrote:That's true of almost any stock you buy from a specialist grower or that you collect, [Jon]. I think it's hilarious when I hear that someone has "collected a ready-made bonsai from a small, natural bowl in a rock, high on a windswept cliff face, above the snowline, blah blah blah..." Bonsai is a compromise between age, the habits of the species, your luck in getting branches to grow in startegic spots and your skill in creating the taper, perspective and impression of age necessary to develop an aesthetically pleasing design.
You take what you get and work from there. It's why we pick through the plants in the stock area or in the backlot of the nursery, looking for something that new, young plants just don't possess. It's equally hilarious to hear someone preparing to grow a masterpiece from some "bonsai seeds". I just hope they got a lot of them for the cow they were meant to sell.
Ok. You cant really create taper or cut off all the branches off 200 year old collected material in fact not many people in Aus really know what to do with the challenge of collected stock.
Australia has a huge amount of collected stock unused in Styrofoam boxes as they don't know what to do with it.
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But, you cant make good bonsai from seed?
I beg to differ here. I will direct your attention to bonsai today 12. It shows what you can produce in ten years for seed.
Again you don't see anything like it here as people forget the horticultural side of bonsai and only focus on the art.
That is why people pick through the back lot at nurseries, and often find stock they think is good, not that is actually good.
Sadly no one is willing to admit it and try to fix it.
Re: A SHORT RECENT HISTORY OF A BOUGAINVILLEA.
Posted: February 14th, 2009, 8:11 am
by Dave54
Hi everyone,
Both Hector and ASIS 101 make points that I agree with. I am known for the fact that I like like to purchase or collect good quality material, however, I also undertake to have a "Grow on" section to my garden.
I have developed beautiful bases and taper on young figs and have them in bonsai pots in a few years.
A good friend of mine grows Nerifolias from cuttings(photos of the Mammoth well developed bases have been shown elsewhere in this forum) and trident maples from seed.
I will post a photo of a maple that I purchased from him about 7 years ago, that he grew from seed. Its nebari is the equal of anything I have seen in this country.
I think the secret boys, is that quality material can be created from all material, IF YOU HAVE THE KNOW-HOW!! Not many enthusiasts I know, worry much about root spread for example.
The use of older material, saves a lot of time though.
That's the idea of this forum, to put some educational material on board.
cheers
Dave
Re: A SHORT RECENT HISTORY OF A BOUGAINVILLEA.
Posted: February 14th, 2009, 8:57 am
by PeterW
Dave54 wrote:Hi everyone,
Both Hector ans ASIS 101 make points that I agree with. I am known for the fact that I like like to purchase or collect good quality material, however, I also undertake to have a "Grow on" section to my garden.
I have developed beautiful bases and taper on young figs and have them in bonsai pots in a few years.
A good friend of mine grows Nerifolias from cuttings(photos of the Mammoth well developed bases have been shown elsewhere in this forum) and tridant maples from seed.
I will post a photo of a maple that I purchased from him about 7 years ago, that he grew from seed. Its nebari is the equal of anything I have seen in this country.
I think the secret boys, is that quality material can be created from all material, IF YOU HAVE THE KNOW-HOW!! Not many enthusiasts I know, worry much about root spread for example.
The use of older material, saves a lot of time though.
That's the idea of this forum, to put some educational material on board.
cheers
Dave
All good stuff Dave. Good material followed by water, feeding, sun and good practices = quality bonsai.
Peter