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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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Bougy Fan wrote:I presume Ken is talking about the branch on the right - I would tend to agree with him. I would take it back and possibly carve into the trunk to help with the taper. So you would just have the leader which you will grow on for a bit.

That's what I was thinking too. There is a small branch there, but when I was cutting the tree back it got cut up a little. So I was waiting to see if that branch survives before removing the bigger one. Hopefully it does.
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Consider that branch gone:
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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Now that looks Much better :clap: :cool:
The apex shoot there will create a nice trunk with lots o taper..


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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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kcpoole wrote:Now that looks Much better :clap: :cool:
The apex shoot there will create a nice trunk with lots o taper..


Ken

Thanks Ken, I really like it too. It's not the best looking right now, but after some heavy growth, it'll get there :D
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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Rot got to this one, R.I.P.
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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Hi Ryan,

I don't get what you're saying as the tree is still alive, or are you talking about a specific bud ? Could you please explain mate.

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DavidWilloughby wrote:Hi Ryan,

I don't get what you're saying as the tree is still alive, or are you talking about a specific bud ? Could you please explain mate.

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It is, but rot is slowly killing it. There's rot all around where each chop site is, as moisture got under the cut paste.
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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Thanks Ryan,

I get you now, I have had this happen on a few of my figs but its not the end of the world. For me, the cut paste in the tub helps with the immediate callous from the cut, but I did experience rot in the centre of the deadwood, whereas the wound sealant in the tube, that prevented any moiture and rot, which allowed the callous to form over the whole cut.

I wouldn't give up on it just yet, if it is rotting a bit, rather than throw it away, use it to your advantage. Intead of being bummed out because of the rot, think of it as Mother Nature helping you with some carving.

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DavidWilloughby wrote:Thanks Ryan,

I get you now, I have had this happen on a few of my figs but its not the end of the world. For me, the cut paste in the tub helps with the immediate callous from the cut, but I did experience rot in the centre of the deadwood, whereas the wound sealant in the tube, that prevented any moiture and rot, which allowed the callous to form over the whole cut.

I wouldn't give up on it just yet, if it is rotting a bit, rather than throw it away, use it to your advantage. Intead of being bummed out because of the rot, think of it as Mother Nature helping you with some carving.

Cheers

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LOL thanks David. I'm not a big fan of deadwood on Figs, it always ends up rotting completely for me. With this one, just about all of the top is rotting though, so I don't know if any amount of carving could save it :?
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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Ryan. This looks bad. :(

I'm one of those guys who don't use cut paste, especially on my figs. So I would naturally be inclined to suspect that the cut paste created a perfect environment for the rot by not allowing the wood to properly dry out. But I'm reopening the old 'to cut paste or not to cut paste' debate with this.

I've never had a rot issue personally, so I'm not sure the best course of action. If it were mine and I had to act I'd either: cut it back to where there is no rot and treat the wood. How much would be left if you cut it right down? A guess a stump is better than an empty pot... I hear scorching it with a blow torch is the single best way to avoid rot (also looks better than lime sulfur) if you did want to treat the wood once it's cut.

All the best with it. Hope it recovers. :fc:
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DustyRusty wrote:Ryan. This looks bad. :(

I'm one of those guys who don't use cut paste, especially on my figs. So I would naturally be inclined to suspect that the cut paste created a perfect environment for the rot by not allowing the wood to properly dry out. But I'm reopening the old 'to cut paste or not to cut paste' debate with this.

I've never had a rot issue personally, so I'm not sure the best course of action. If it were mine and I had to act I'd either: cut it back to where there is no rot and treat the wood. How much would be left if you cut it right down? A guess a stump is better than an empty pot... I hear scorching it with a blow torch is the single best way to avoid rot (also looks better than lime sulfur) if you did want to treat the wood once it's cut.

All the best with it. Hope it recovers. :fc:
I agree that it looks bad, which is why I'm just about ready to toss it. I might just go ahead and chop it way way back, there wouldn't be much left, but there'd still be a tree. I used cut paste because I was getting rot even when I didn't put cut paste on, it was just so humid.

Never heard about torching the wood, but it sounds interesting...
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The Ficus Guy wrote: I agree that it looks bad, which is why I'm just about ready to toss it. I might just go ahead and chop it way way back, there wouldn't be much left, but there'd still be a tree. I used cut paste because I was getting rot even when I didn't put cut paste on, it was just so humid.

Never heard about torching the wood, but it sounds interesting...
Wow. Virginia must be humid!! Sounds great for figs, but bad for rot....which is bad for figs. Understand why you tried the paste.

Yeah apparently blow torching wood is an old ship builders' technique for prevent further rot on a boat - or so I read on a forum about rot in figs somewhere on the interweb. But it's a bonsai technique that's been used for awhile by others looking for a more natural alternative to lime sulfur especially on the deadwood of deciduous trees.
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DustyRusty wrote:
The Ficus Guy wrote: I agree that it looks bad, which is why I'm just about ready to toss it. I might just go ahead and chop it way way back, there wouldn't be much left, but there'd still be a tree. I used cut paste because I was getting rot even when I didn't put cut paste on, it was just so humid.

Never heard about torching the wood, but it sounds interesting...
Wow. Virginia must be humid!! Sounds great for figs, but bad for rot....which is bad for figs. Understand why you tried the paste.

Yeah apparently blow torching wood is an old ship builders' technique for prevent further rot on a boat - or so I read on a forum about rot in figs somewhere on the interweb. But it's a bonsai technique that's been used for awhile by others looking for a more natural alternative to lime sulfur especially on the deadwood of deciduous trees.
Yeah, it can get quite humid here. I used the same cut paste on other trees that are outdoors, but they didn't rot (or haven't yet :fc: ). I'll have to check on the web to see if anyone else has torched their trees wood, it sounds neat.

I did actually end up cutting this one back to beyond the rot. It's not pretty, but hey, at least it's better than the trash can.
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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The Ficus Guy wrote: I did actually end up cutting this one back to beyond the rot. It's not pretty, but hey, at least it's better than the trash can.
Absolutely! Looks rot free too. I have a similar looking stump that's a Seiju Elm of mine that had developed reverse taper. I plan on making it a semi cascade, for it's a style that I think could be developed fairly easily from a stump.

PS If you do do some torching I think the trick is to make sure you don't torch the live bark :)
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Re: A New Tiger Bark Fig

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DustyRusty wrote:
The Ficus Guy wrote: I did actually end up cutting this one back to beyond the rot. It's not pretty, but hey, at least it's better than the trash can.
Absolutely! Looks rot free too. I have a similar looking stump that's a Seiju Elm of mine that had developed reverse taper. I plan on making it a semi cascade, for it's a style that I think could be developed fairly easily from a stump.

PS If you do do some torching I think the trick is to make sure you don't torch the live bark :)
Thanks! I'm not sure if I'm going to torch it though, can't find anything about it on the net. To get this one to backbud, it'd really help to get it into a humid environment. However, with this large wound, I'm scared to do that now because I just know it will start to rot.
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