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[ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 11:24 am
by Booga
I am sure is is some type of casuarina, I dug it yesterday on the rd side.
I know it is a bit lanky but I am hopping for some back budding. Cheers
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Re: Another native, ID please
Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 12:37 pm
by Hornet
Casuarina torulosa by the looks of it
Re: Another native, ID please
Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 12:53 pm
by Booga
Hornet wrote:Casuarina torulosa by the looks of it
I recon your right thanks Hornet, do you know much about them

Re:[ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 24th, 2012, 10:11 am
by shibui
Casuarinas and Allocasuarinas are a bit difficult to ID from just a photo of a seedling. A close look at the leaves will give a better diagnosis. Get a hand lens and check the 'joints' on the 'leaves' (which are really stems) to see the true leaves. The number and arrangement of these tiny leaves is one of the features used to classify plants in this group.
Cones are useful in ID too but you won't have any on such a young tree. Any adults near where the seedling grew?
Re: Another native, ID please
Posted: March 24th, 2012, 12:51 pm
by Booga
shibui wrote:Casuarinas and Allocasuarinas are a bit difficult to ID from just a photo of a seedling. A close look at the leaves will give a better diagnosis. Get a hand lens and check the 'joints' on the 'leaves' (which are really stems) to see the true leaves. The number and arrangement of these tiny leaves is one of the features used to classify plants in this group.
Cones are useful in ID too but you won't have any on such a young tree. Any adults near where the seedling grew?
Thanks for the reply shibui. Yes there were a few around but a lot farther away and were large so I didnt stop to have a look.
Here is the leaves if you can make any thing it out let me know please
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Re: [ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 24th, 2012, 1:33 pm
by MattA
It isn't torulosa as it has a red tinge to them, possibly Allocasuarina littoralis.
Re: [ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 24th, 2012, 2:03 pm
by bonsaibruce
Howdy,
With a trunk like that make a formal up-right. There are not enough and not many natives.
Check and sort out the roots now.
Bruce
Re: [ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 24th, 2012, 3:55 pm
by Booga
MattA wrote:It isn't torulosa as it has a red tinge to them, possibly Allocasuarina littoralis.
Thanks Matt I will research Allocasuarina littoralis.
It has really nice bark and I hope it pulls through. Cheers Mate

Re: [ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 24th, 2012, 4:05 pm
by Booga
bonsaibruce wrote:Howdy,
With a trunk like that make a formal up-right. There are not enough and not many natives.
Check and sort out the roots now.
Bruce
Howdy Bruce. Thanks mate thats all I can see it being too unless it back buds.
The bark is so thick and easily damaged so wiring is definitely out.. as for roots! hm not happy with the amount of fine roots I got so I will just have to wait and see if it survives

Re: [ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 25th, 2012, 7:33 pm
by shibui
Hey Booga, that picture doesn't show the leaves. those green 'needles' that look like leaves are actually the stems. The true leaves are in a circle around the joints in those green needles. You will need a magnifying glass to see them. If you pull one of those stems it will usually break at the joint. Look close at the broken end still on the plant and you will see a little serrated crown around the break. Those tiny tips are the leaves. Different allocasuarina species have different numbers and shaped leaf whorls. A. litoralis has whorls of 6 leaf teeth and a hexagonal cross section, A. nana has whols of 5 and a circular cross section, A. stricta has whorls of 9, etc
Litoralis has cones with blunt ends - a cylinder with a flat top. Most others have rounded ends to the cones.
Re: [ID] Another native, please
Posted: March 27th, 2012, 3:52 pm
by Booga
Thanks for the detailed description Shibui, by the looks of it I might need more than a magnifying glass though

Man they must be tiny, I cant see them with the naked eye at all.
I will go back to where I dug it and see if there are trees of the same species with some seed pods, I might have to also take a small branch to somebody with a Microscope

Thanks for the reply
