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[WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 5:17 pm
by Bretts
Peter Kreb has a great write up on blue pots and it has me thinking I would love a blue pot for my firethorn.

Here are some samples of the sort of pot I want. If anyone has something like this to sell, can make them or has any leads please let me know.
Thanks
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Pictures from Peter Kreb's great website
http://www.bonsaipots.net/index.php?pag ... ted-pots-1

Re: [WANTED] Blue pots

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 5:45 pm
by Jow
Hi Bretts,

I am pretty sure those pots are based on or are antique chinese containers. Tokoname potteries still make similar to those patterns although they can be pricey (less than antiques though).

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/bonsai/acatalog/a008.jpg

The chrysanthemum pot can be found at that link. You dont often see that blue colour in modern Japnese pots but occasionally they appear. Hatori uses a similar blue colour on some of their pots.

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/bonsai/acatalog/a058.jpg

Pot 58A36 might be something along the lines of what you want..... although it is $300 ish dollars and shipping usually runs at $50+ along with packing costs.

Joe.

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 6:22 pm
by Bretts
That's a great start Jow, thanks.

58A36 is not bad. Maybe a little thin and perfect for what I am thinking but I am sure it would be a stunner under the firethorn.

08A53 in your first link is closer to what I was thinking but it is green, although a very nice green.
If the first is about $300 then I guess this one would be about $400. That would eat my pot budget fior this year up pretty quick :palm:

If you read all three pages in Peters Write up I do believe he states these pots are antique Chinese, he also goes into a little about the thought process in their manufacture.
Please keep the info comming it looks like I have alot to learn before I can find myself something I am happy with and can afford.

Maybe I will have to make my own :?

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 9:46 pm
by Jow
Yep they look antique chinese although a lot of antique japanese containers were inspired by antique chinese containers so it can be a little tricky to tell sometimes..... Nice pots either way.

I have a feeling i saw a chrysanthemum pot for sale at one of the Melbourne shows. If memory serves me right it was from a local importer who has connections to a chinese factory. They were a good bit cheaper than Japanese pots. My memory of them is hazy at best so i could be wrong.

I'll ask around.

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 9:48 pm
by Bretts
Thanks Jow that would be much appreciated :tu: :wave:

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 10:17 pm
by vgarth
Hi Brett, I'm Val and I make bonsai pots. I'm in Melbourne. I don't fancy trying to post a pot interstate, but if you are somewhere in Melb or country Vic, I could try to make you one. What size do you want? Length, width, depth please. Definitely rectangular? Stoneware only, or consider earthenware? I can do that darker blue of the first pot you had a picture of, in earthenware. I can do the cobalt colour of the second pot in stoneware, (I think.)
Cheers,
Val Garth

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 13th, 2012, 2:11 am
by MattA
Hey Brett,

Penny (MudlarkPottery) has a really nice blue glaze & I am sure if you ask her she would be happy to make a pot to your specs. I don't know if she would be able to recreate the first but the second is well within reach. Its the same blue glaze that I used on the little rectangle Pup posted recently with a tiny raft in it (sitting on top of a soft drink can).

Matt

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 26th, 2012, 9:11 pm
by Bretts
Hi Guy's
Sorry I didn't reply earlier, The computer fizzled a diode and my access was very limited.

Jow has found a vendor that stocks what he calls crisanthymum pots. I am still in the process of contacting him and I will also have a go at making a couple myself in a day or two. I think we have a nice blue like this in amoungst the glazes.

Thanks for all the help I will keep you posted on how I go.

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 26th, 2012, 9:49 pm
by vgarth
Hi Bretts,
good luck, when you finally get or make one, post the picture to show us all.
Cheers,
Val

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 26th, 2012, 10:16 pm
by Beaumatsu2
Yeskeep us posted, of you buy one please post the information because I would love to have one of the replica bule pots !!!

Beau

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 31st, 2012, 8:21 pm
by Bretts
I decided to make my own :fc:

This is the biggest pot I have made before . I was after thicker walls but maybe that will be in mark II

Now I have to learn to make a flower sculpture :lost: :palm: :fc:
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Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 31st, 2012, 8:50 pm
by Andrew F
Wow brett. I wish you had of took a few more progression shots, that pot looks wicked. Is that a empty extra dry i see???? :P

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 31st, 2012, 9:25 pm
by fiveoffive
that 2nd pot is sexy

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 31st, 2012, 9:33 pm
by Bretts
Thanks VS, long way to go yet though :shock:
I wish you had of took a few more progression shots,
Don't you know Potters techniques are secret :palm: :lol:
I did think of taking a pic when I had all the pieces layed out but that is pretty straight forward. Cut the base the shape you want and then cut a piece the same length as each section. Joining the pieces and getting it all straight is the hard part.

I guess I could do a tutorial on making slab pots. We do have one on oval pots here but how many people would want a slab building one at it is pretty straight forward and I don't know anyone that has access to a kiln that would not know already or have some one to show them as I was shown.

Not extra dry but Good Head :shock: A nice beer but wasn't bought quick enough by the punters so the local has them on special for $30 a carton. Always on the lookout for a bargain ;)

If ya mean the second blue pot 55 I would agree except I like the first pot better and I cant do intricate feet yet :P

Re: [WANTED] Blue Decorated Pots

Posted: May 31st, 2012, 10:11 pm
by vgarth
Your pot looks fantastic. Remeber to dry slowly to help prevent cracking - often worth draping a plastic sheet over it to slow the drying. (Pardon me if you know these things.) I don't know much about how to do the chrysanthemum decoration yet either - sprig style I presume, but I haven't really practiced doing sprig decoration, just heard of it.
Good luck, Val