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Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 1:25 pm
by The Ficus Guy
Hey everyone,
I picked up a dwarf leaf variety of Ficus natalensis from a nursery far down south of me and thought I'd share it with you all and gather comments on these. Are you all familiar with the dwarf form? I have the regular form, which gets pretty big leaves, but I haven't worked with this form. It's got tons of aerial roots. Check out these pictures below, I have no idea where to take it. Comments are more than welcome.
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 1:48 pm
by Hackimoto

It is not any form of Natalensis. It looks more like one of our Australian species, maybe Rubiginosa. Could you post a pic of your "big" natalensis so we can have a look at it, leaf shape etc.?
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 1:54 pm
by Bougy Fan
Yep definitely not a Natal fig. Does look like a PF fig

Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 1:56 pm
by The Ficus Guy
Hackimoto wrote:
It is not any form of Natalensis. It looks more like one of our Australian species, maybe Rubiginosa. Could you post a pic of your "big" natalensis so we can have a look at it, leaf shape etc.?
You know, I was thinking that. The difference in leaf appearance between my "big" natalensis and this one are completely different. This ones leaves are also fuzzy on the underside. I don't think it's rubiginosa though...
Here's the regular leaf size natalensis:
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And here's this "dwarf" variety:
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Something smells fishy

Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 1:58 pm
by The Ficus Guy
Here's the place I bought it from:
http://wigertsbonsai.com/store/index.ph ... cts_id=260
I also bought the regular leaf natalensis from them. The Wigerts are good bonsai people (not sure if you all are familiar with Eriks work over there), but the leaves just look completely different.
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 4:27 pm
by Ash
Hi,
Your 'dwarf' appears to be a Ficus rubiginosa rather than a Ficus natalensis. I wouldn't mind betting it is a smallish leaf collection from central coast of NSW that has been been circulating widely in Australia for decades. Makes excellent bonsai. Ficus rubiginosa is a remarkably variable species and some of its cultivars are quite distinct. All in all it gives rise to much confusion. Have a look at the hairs - they are the giveaway.
cheers
Ash
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 5:10 pm
by Andrew Legg
Hey Guys,
I live in South Africa and I've never heard anyone making mention of a dwarf variety. The smaller leafed fig variety we get here is the Ficus burtt Davyi, commonly know as the Veld Fig.
Cheers,
Andrew
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 12th, 2012, 6:09 pm
by Tony Bebb
So hard to tell with some of our Figs which is which due to seed variations, but it definitely looks like one of ours. Could be Eugenoides/Platypoda.
I use a simple rule. If it comes from New South Wales it is Port Jackson. If it comes from Queensland it is Qld Small Leaf Fig.
Good to see they're on your shores FG. Nice little specimen to work with too.
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 8:02 am
by The Ficus Guy
Thanks everyone!
I think Hackimoto and Andrew may be right, it does look like a burtt-dayi. Ash, when you say look at the leaf hairs, what should I be looking for? Or is it just the fact that the underside of the leaves have hairs that counts?
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 8:20 am
by The Ficus Guy
Actually, I think the leaves may be too glossy for it to be a burtt-dayii, so back to looking at the PJ Fig.
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 15th, 2012, 9:28 pm
by Andrew Legg
Ok guys,
Here's some of my tree's leaves. First up, a small burtt davyi cutting:
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Next, a non-trained burtt davyi - different variety with a red stem. I believe this reduces to the same size leaf as the first one, but I've not tried reduction yet as for now, I'm growing this on for trunk size.
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Top of the leaves: (left to right - natal, natal, burtt, burtt)
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Don't know if that will help or not!
Cheers,
Andrew
Re: Dwarf Ficus natalensis
Posted: July 17th, 2012, 12:17 pm
by The Ficus Guy
Thanks Andrew, great help! I still don't have a 100% ID on what this could be, but it helps that you all have narrowed it down a good bit. Hmmm
