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collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 4:03 pm
by matty-j
Hey guys I collected a pyracanthas today an got it out in one massive clump of clay
The question is do I soak it an remove all the clay? Or just get it into a large pot an leave it for a year?
I got told to soak it in a tub overnight an let the clay fall away then pot it tomorrow does this sound ok?
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 4:15 pm
by craigw60
I think you should get rid of all the clay, leaving it behind will mean very wet potting mix.
Craigw
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 4:17 pm
by matty-j
Thank you craig

Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 5:07 pm
by Justin Hervey
Hi Matt
It may be a little early to collect, I have had most success in mid-September so holding thumbs.
Soaking off is a good idea but I wouldn't worry about the soil draining slowly, I collect these from clay based soils and leave a fair amount of the original soil in place until they get used to the new environment. Pyracathas love water so this retention helps in the heat of mid-summer.
Don't panic when you see the leaves dropping, they will all go but you should get a strong new flush within a couple of weeks.
They don't like their roots being cut or disturbed so I normally don't re-pot until the end of the second growing season.
Good luck.
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 5:16 pm
by matty-j
Thanks for the info Justin
I hope it's not to early

I really want this little guy to live
I think I will soak it overnight and what ever clay is still hanging on solid tomorrow I will leave on and try and not damage the roots more than I already have
I will post some photos tonight of it
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 6:15 pm
by mattgatenby
Matty
I would soak it in a seasol bath overnight to encourage root growth for when you do put it in a pot....any clay left behind after a day in the tub should probably stay there so the root ball is not disturbed to much
Let us know how this works out for you mate
Matt
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 6:36 pm
by MelaQuin
I would water blast the poor soil off, soak it in SeaSol for 24 hours and pot in good soil. With a sensitive tree I would be more reticent but Pyras are pretty damn sturdy and I have done the hard yards with a couple and not a leaf dropped.
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 6:43 pm
by matty-j
here are some quick photo's just just in case anyone wanted to see them
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Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 6:53 pm
by matty-j
matty and melaquin thanks for the advice
when you guys have collected in the past have there been lots of roots or little to none?
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 7:23 pm
by Andrew Legg
Matty,
If I were you, I'd keep an eye on other local pyracanthas and see when they start to move again. Do the root work then. For now, I'd just treat for shock and keep the typical after-care good. I have a big'un to collect here in Cape Town, but I'm going to wait until September when they start to come out of dormancy. If you give that tree good care, I can't see why it will not be ok.
This is the base of the one I'm gonna dig - those are London Plane tree leaves so it's probably about 30 - 40 cms at the base!
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Cheers,
Andrew
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 7:32 pm
by mattgatenby
Depends on the species, the soil it's growing in and age of the subject....
Tropicals like figs and bouganvilas will have kind of sparse roots but will shoot plenty with correct after care. Deciduos will genrally have lots and will cope better than natives when root runing is required....once again they will grow plenty of feeder roots with correct after care.
The above 2 statements are very general but the important and common point for all yamadori is performing the correct after care
Plenty of shade, potted into a free draining mix and a dose of seasol wvery 2 - 3 weeks

Once you see new shoots on top you are heading in the right direction below the soil as well

once it starts shooting move it into a sunnier position
Good luck mate
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 11:41 pm
by matty-j
Andrew Legg wrote:This is the base of the one I'm gonna dig - those are London Plane tree leaves so it's probably about 30 - 40 cms at the base!
that is a big one mate!!! good luck
mattgatenby wrote:Depends on the species, the soil it's growing in and age of the subject....
Tropicals like figs and bouganvilas will have kind of sparse roots but will shoot plenty with correct after care. Deciduos will genrally have lots and will cope better than natives when root runing is required....once again they will grow plenty of feeder roots with correct after care.
The above 2 statements are very general but the important and common point for all yamadori is performing the correct after care
Plenty of shade, potted into a free draining mix and a dose of seasol wvery 2 - 3 weeks

Once you see new shoots on top you are heading in the right direction below the soil as well

once it starts shooting move it into a sunnier position
Good luck mate
thanks for the advice matty
lets hope my after care is up to scratch ill keep you up dated!
Re: collected Pyracanthas HELP!!
Posted: July 14th, 2012, 12:51 am
by Treecollecter
Nice find