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Wisterias

Posted: August 31st, 2012, 10:37 pm
by Hackimoto
Here are some of my Wisterias flowering about three weeks early this year. You will notice that I grow them in 300 mm black plastic pots which I sit in a saucer of water all summer. I have about fifteen Wisterias and I can not dish out the money to put each one in a ceramic pot . If I know a show is coming up then I put the one, or ones that I wish to display into a dark green ceramic pot about a month before the show. I'll post some more pics of the others as they come into flower.

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 12:04 am
by nealweb
Beautiful!!
You obviously have no problem getting them to flower. Are you in the 'feed like crazy' camp or the 'treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen' camp? I have noticed some people advocate aloooot of feeding while others say rubbish soil, little fert (but lots of water) and root bound to get flowers.

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 1:03 am
by Haydenmc
love that second pic, is it a graft? if not what approx. age is the tree? I'm hoping some cuttings i recently took from a 20 year old vine will take - nowhere near the character of any of these beauties.

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 1:16 am
by MoGanic
Hack, as I'm sure you know Wisteria are one of if not my favourite plant of all time. These are absolutely stunning mate.

My wisteria has flowered for the first time this year, I have to say it's indescribable. I only have the one at this stage but I will hopefully acquire more as time goes on.

Thank you for sharing, I would love to see some pictures when you pot these up for shows.

-Mo

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 7:31 am
by Hackimoto
Haydenmc wrote:love that second pic, is it a graft? if not what approx. age is the tree? I'm hoping some cuttings i recently took from a 20 year old vine will take - nowhere near the character of any of these beauties.
I must say that the second one is one of my favourites also, along with a pink Carnea which will be flowering soon. It was taken as an aerial layer about 30 years ago. I am also thinking of adding a second layer of foliage/flowers lower to make it cascade even further. I don't find that cuttings of Wisteria take very well and I lose most of them unless you can water them eight times a day to stop them dehydrating. Root cuttings do well and aerial and ground layers are the best way to propagate.

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 7:41 am
by marleey73
These are lovely and thanks so much for sharing. I have one large wisteria that I have had for a few years and do you think I can get it to flower NO! The smaller ones are in flower now. Have attached a pic of the larger one and hope one of you will tell me the secret to get it to flower. I treat it the same as the smaller ones :lost:

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 8:07 am
by kcpoole
Nice flowers hack and they are very early, Mine have not even started to extend yet, but hopefully soon :fc:

the trunk on them all a re lovely, they show the nobby, lumpy trunk of old wisteria very nicely :yes:

Ken

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 8:21 am
by Sno
G'day Hackimoto. I've been looking forward to this thread ever since you mentioned in an earlier thread you grew wisteria and might show us them. Absolutely stunning !
Well done, I appreciate you showing them too us :clap:
May I ask how often you repot them and the timing .
Cheers Craig

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 8:59 am
by Hackimoto
So many questions :lost: Here we go. This is my regime.
re pot: Early August when buds are just swelling. Sometimes every year, sometimes every 2 to 3 years.
Potting Mix: Any well drained mix with 1/3 volume old cow manure.(How do I know the cow was old? Check its teeth) :roll:
Position: Full sun all year long. From Dec until leaf fall, sit pot in a shallow saucer of water.
Fertiliser: Any complete even ratio NPK fert not too high in N. once a month in growing season, you can change over to high potassium in mid summer if you want.
Trimming: Cut back to basic shape after flowering and let vines grow un-trimmed until mid summer then cut back to 3 or 4 nodes from where they initiated.
Choice of species: Depending on where you live Sinensis flower anywhere. Floribunda will grow like anything but can take 10 years or more if not in a cold winter climate. Seed grown plants take forever to mature to flower. Cuttings and layers and Yamadori are the only ways to get mature wood.

Marleey, Yours looks like a Floribunda, did it come named?

"Quote" "some people advocate aloooot of feeding while others say rubbish soil, little fert (but lots of water) and root bound to get flowers." These would almost have to be Wisteria sinensis as they will flower anywhere and in almost any conditions.

Have I missed anything :?:

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 6:08 pm
by marleey73
Very informative info Hackimoto. Much appreciated. No it didn't come with a name. Think your right. It is very big but no flowers are disapointing. Never mind maybe next year. Thanks for sharing. :)

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 6:17 pm
by Hackimoto
Marleey, has yours come into leaf yet or is that an old pic? It looks Japanese.

The easiest way to tell if it is Japanese (floribunda) or Chinese (sinensis) is to count the leaflets.
Japanese has between 13 and 17 leaflets and has light green new foliage
Chinese has between 9 and 13 leaflets and usually has bronze coloured new foliage.

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 6:22 pm
by Tony Bebb
Nice Hack. :cool:

Been waiting for these, and waiting for more.

Tony

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 1st, 2012, 6:33 pm
by Hackimoto
Thanks Tony, I still have a pink Floribunda "Carnea", and Shiro Kapitan and the American Frutescens to come out yet and will post them when they do. Stay on line for a minute as I want to send you a pm.
Jeff

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 12:27 am
by kvan64
Nice!!!
I got some real big ones which don't seem to have a lot of flower buds this year. I may have pruned them too hard!

Re: Wisterias

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 12:52 am
by anttal63
Very Nice Hack !!! :tu: