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Japanese elm

Posted: October 28th, 2012, 4:53 pm
by Meagi
Hi does anyone have any info on bonsai Japanese elms .
I seen a few today some red in color
Regards

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 28th, 2012, 8:40 pm
by shibui
Japanese grey bark Elm - Zelkova serrata.
One of the classic Japanese bonsai species. Hiro once said that Japanese bonsai growers ONLY grow zelkova as Broom style because this is the natural shape for this tree. Some westerners produce informal upright and other styles with it. Is one point of view right?

New growth can have reddish leaves but these will ripen to green in a few weeks.
I have found zelkova to be one of the toughest species regarding watering. When others, even tough species are wilting and dieing from dehydration zelkova is last to suffer.
Younger trees can fail to leaf out in spring. Doesn't affect all trees but this has happened here regularly but I have not worked out why yet. Also appears to be happening with Chinese Quince.

Zelkova does not ramify as easily as chinese elm and trident maple so getting a good one will take time. Alternate leaf and relatively long internodes make larger trees easier to achieve :imo:

Grow them the same as maples and other elms.
Propagate by seed, cuttings and root cuttings or layers.

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 29th, 2012, 5:45 am
by Meagi
Thanks for the info seen a few on the weekend
May invest in one if I can find a good one
Can't beat a good elm of any sort .
Regards

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 29th, 2012, 6:19 am
by fae
Interesting post Shibui, thanks for the information.

I have a Zelkova, which I repotted over the winter season. It has only just started to throw out new shoots,much slower than all my other deciduous trees. Thought I had killed it.

Fiona :clap:

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 29th, 2012, 8:25 pm
by shibui
That is one of the characteristics of zelkova Fae. Always the last to leaf up in spring so I leave their repotting to last.

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 30th, 2012, 6:28 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
fae wrote:Interesting post Shibui, thanks for the information.

I have a Zelkova, which I repotted over the winter season. It has only just started to throw out new shoots,much slower than all my other deciduous trees. Thought I had killed it.

Fiona :clap:
Hi Fiona, I have found that Zelkovas are the last deciduous species to leaf out in spring and the first to lose their leaves in autumn. Neil, I agree with Hiro that this tree is best as a broom, but I havent seen a really good Zs broom in Australia yet. Someone must have one?

Cheers,
Mojo

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 30th, 2012, 6:32 pm
by Meagi
Thanks guys lets see who has the best broom (or any style )
Japanese elm
Hard to beat them for color I reckon .

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 30th, 2012, 6:34 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
In case anyone was curious as to what I mean when I say Broom, I like mine classical, not informal trunk helmet style (to quote Nick Lenz). My classification of "really good Broom" See below.
DSC02673.jpg
Outstanding work, Japanese, hopefully not impossible for me :fc:

Cheers,
Mojo

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 30th, 2012, 6:39 pm
by Meagi
Now that's a tree!!!!
Thanks mojo

Re: Japanese elm

Posted: October 30th, 2012, 6:44 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
From memory, I think that pic was taken by another AusBonsai member at the Tokyo Green Club, not sure who though. I have a few pics of shohin broom Zelkovas that I like even more than that tree, somewhere on my PC. I'll have a look.

Cheers,
Mojo