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My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 7th, 2013, 4:34 pm
by klaery
Hi guys and gals.

I have been reading here for a bit and am finally making my first post. I am not a bonsai addict at this stage but I have always wanted a nice large bonsai from scratch and came here to learn how. My favourite tree is the Queensland bottle tree and so I wanted to try and use this species iny bonsai. A few months ago I got a small tree with an interesting base and immediately repotted to show more of the base. At the time i also cut the tree right down and crossed fingers that it would grow. Well it did and after a few more weeks i repotted into a bonsai-ish pot.

I know this was a no no so soon but this plant seems bulletproof and took it in its stride. A few weeks on I want to start training my tree but I don't know where to start. I am posting this so hopefully I can get some suggestions from you much more experienced people. Ill try and post up future pics here to as a record of its progress. Here is my tree.

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Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 7th, 2013, 4:41 pm
by Bougy Fan
:gday: and welcome. I too am a big fan of the bottle tree. I now have 4 and have trouble walking past one at a nursery :palm: If this was mine I would cut off that root coming off the side and cut back to one leader - I would use the one on the left (1st pic) to continue the movement. Give it some native fertiliser - I find these trees grow well even in a bonsai pot.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 7th, 2013, 6:56 pm
by klaery
Thankyou for your reply :)

I will take your advice on the leader this evening :) maybe make it continue across in a sweep at the base does?

Regarding the root I do kind of like it and wondered what it would look like as the tree ages. You are right though that the tree would probably look better without it. Hmmm will take my time thinking but will probably do it :)

Thanks again
Dan

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 7th, 2013, 7:07 pm
by Bougy Fan
Well cover it with something and look Dan - but remember it will thicken the new trunk at that point and make a bulge eventually. Yes I would continue with the movement to the left, but that's the way my brain works - yours may be different.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 7th, 2013, 7:18 pm
by klaery
Thanks Tony :)
I can picture it once it thickens up and agree. I'll have a play and see what I come up with.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 8th, 2013, 12:48 pm
by klaery
So after playing with it I took Tony's advice. It sweeps to the left and forward. I wanted it to go to the side but the sweep naturally went to the front so I will just reorientate it when I repot.

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Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 8th, 2013, 1:08 pm
by Bougy Fan
Looks good - you could even put some movement in the leader now. Just watch the wire as these things rocket away in summer.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 10th, 2013, 7:54 pm
by klaery
Thanks Tony :)
I made It sweep a bit towards the front following the movement of the base. I like the look if it does thicken up one day in that shape. The tip is already pointing skyward so when it grows another cm or two Ill start to angle that back towards the tree. I was also thinking of maybe cutting just above this bend (once it has grown a bit) so I could have a branch at the bend and then a main leader that could continue back to above the base of the tree.

I have no idea about traditional styling but thought this might look cool... maybe haha.

I will have to do some reading and will probably get another tree (different/less leggy species) at some stage as I do like the traditional looking trees and would like to do one one day.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 10th, 2013, 8:43 pm
by Bougy Fan
I have seen some wild pictures of bottle trees with lots of movement and bends - I don't think they lend themselves to "traditional" styling. You may find yourself with more than one - like me :whistle:

Just give it a go and keep going - I reckon as long as you are moving forward you are learning :tu:

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 24th, 2013, 6:29 pm
by klaery
It is starting to grow its secondary leaves again now and I am going to try and make it branch at the point it is now. Thought it was a good time for an update pic :) I also think I have a new front when I repot and changed the wiring to suit a couple of weeks back. It moves back as it tapers up which breaks a rule (I think) but it then sweeps back forward in the bend. Meh I like it :)

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Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 6:20 pm
by klaery
Oh also if anybody has any other or better ideas about which way this tree could go please let me know :) I am a true beginner and have next to no idea what I am doing haha. I just do what I think might look nice based on no experience.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 6:25 pm
by Bougy Fan
Watch the wire - these trees grow very quickly. You just have to decide if the apex is going to keep going away from the base or come back towards it. I do find it a bit conflicted at the moment with the movement. The base has strong angular movement and then the top section you have wired is sort of "sweepy". It's like the base of the tree is very masculine and then the top is feminine :2c:

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 6:30 pm
by klaery
Hmmmm I never thought of it like that!

I did want to angle it back so I could do a hard angle back from where it starts to go vertical. Would take away the soft sweep and give it a jagged tree look.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 7:05 pm
by bodhidharma
Bougy is giving great advice and is mentoring you a little, which is fantastic. Imagine a sweeping tree more, sort of like a curvy swans neck and follow that line up.

Re: My Queensland bottle tree

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 8:53 pm
by klaery
Yes I am very thankful to Bougy for all the advice :) And thank you to you too.

I'll keep working on it :)

Thanks again.
Dan