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Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 30th, 2013, 10:34 pm
by Gerard
Some people are loathe to use pesticides but my attitude is kill them before they kill my trees.
Rogor has become difficult to buy because of its toxicity, this confuses me!
Isn't it supposed to be poisonous?
I am curious about application. I have always mixed it with clensel and sprayed the foliage.
Today I read an article which suggested to apply systemic pesticide directly to the soil.
This makes some sense but which method will be most efficient?
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 30th, 2013, 11:10 pm
by Pup
Hi Gerard I use it both ways foliage and some into the soil. I find this works well. The only trees I do not use systemics on is Chinese elms, as they drop their Leaves, I can get and use Rogor. I am at the moment trialling the Confidor pellets. They supposedly feed the plant as well as protect them.
I am trialling on two of my trees that I have more trouble with scale, at the moment no scale. Will let you know how we fare. I am trialling it on a Ficus and a Cycas revoluta.
Pup Cheers

Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 7:23 pm
by Bretts
Hey Pup can you give a little more detail on the confidor pellets I did a search but can't find them? Sounds too good to be true.
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 7:35 pm
by reddoggy
Look up Garden City Plastics website they sell a product called Initiator Insecticide,you can either buy container containing 300 0r 1200 tablets for a fraction of the price of Confidor Tablets it is the same chemical as confidor called Imidacloprid.
I have been using them in my Orchid pots and Bonsai for a year or two with great results.
I cannot afford cofidor tabs at approx 15bucks for 8 I think.

Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 8:24 pm
by Bretts
Garden City Plastics are great and not far from Ray Nesci.
Not sure on price but here is the link
http://www.gardencityplastics.com/Searc ... nsecticide
Thanks Red dog
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 8:33 pm
by reddoggy
Thanks Bretts
I heard thru the grapevine that they are moving up to Somersby, off the F3 on the way to Gosford so ring b4 you go.
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 8:38 pm
by Watto
Hi Gerard,
I too am a fan of Rogor simply because it seems to kill all the nasties that impact on my bonsai. I have always used it as a foliage spray as I was told the soli neutralises the chemical when in contact.
This season however I have used Confidor as a preventive spray and I think the results are good (so far anyway). The only trees I don't spray are the plum trees as I like to eat the fruit and as a result the leaves are showing signs of insect damage.
I have no trouble buying the product (Rogor) and quite often I buy the spray cans (probably because I'm a bit lazy) and find they are equally effective - a bit more expensive but effective.
Give me a PM if you want me to get you some and I will send it down.
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 8:48 pm
by Bretts
reddoggy wrote:Thanks Bretts
I heard thru the grapevine that they are moving up to Somersby, off the F3 on the way to Gosford so ring b4 you go.
Dam I don't mind change but some things just should not

Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: January 31st, 2013, 11:21 pm
by Pup
Hi ya Brett this was recommended by a sales rep from Yates free samples seemed OK, so bought these to try only been using them for 2 months seem to be working.
Have had no scale trouble on the plants that were badly affected by scale.
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Hope this is enough Cheers Pup.
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: February 1st, 2013, 8:13 am
by bamboos
Does anybody use rogor on figs on a regular basis? Ihave been told by a few people (with heaps of experience ) that rogor is toxicto figs.I love rogorand would useit everywhere if i could.
Maybe I should spray one of myshohins and see what happens
Steve
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: February 1st, 2013, 11:04 am
by Jow
I emailed Richgro who used to manufacture Rogor. They no longer produce the product, hence why it is not on shelves.
I dont know what to use for white pine mite now as Rogor was the only thing that had a decient effect on them......
Ideas?
I tried the confidor tablets on a juniper that has some scale and they seemed to have little to no effect, so i sprayed with Rogor and they were gone in days.
Rogor, you will be missed.
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: February 1st, 2013, 11:54 am
by JR_J
Hi All,
We've been using Rogor as well as Confidor with good results - Confidor can be used even if rain is on its way! However, both products are now hard to get in spray cans - Bunnings used to have both, but no longer ... environmental issue! They've stopped stocking any spray cans, the only place now is the new chain of Masters who still stock them both! Just wonder for how much longer?
Cheers, Rudi
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: February 1st, 2013, 12:54 pm
by fireworks
From Garden City Plastics I purchased 300 Initator Insecticide Tablets for $130.40 just a couple of months ago. Plants are doing well.

Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: February 1st, 2013, 1:57 pm
by Boics
Pup says... "The only trees I do not use systemics on is Chinese elms, as they drop their Leaves,".
Interesting as I've used Confidor recently a bit on my Chinese Elms and no leaf drop so far......?
Re: Systemic pesticide application
Posted: February 3rd, 2013, 12:11 am
by Shane Martin
reddoggy wrote:Look up Garden City Plastics website they sell a product called Initiator Insecticide,you can either buy container containing 300 0r 1200 tablets for a fraction of the price of Confidor Tablets it is the same chemical as confidor called Imidacloprid.
I have been using them in my Orchid pots and Bonsai for a year or two with great results.
I cannot afford cofidor tabs at approx 15bucks for 8 I think.

Reddoggy,
Did you buy these tabs from that website???? How much were they?