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Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 2:41 pm
by Steven
G'day,
I picked this one up at the
National sale day last weekend. Noel Summerell had been growing it for the last 15 years from seed, the first 10 years it was in the ground.
I like the base but there are issues with the tree.
What would you do if it were yours?
Regards,
Steven
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Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 3:15 pm
by 63pmp
Hi Steven,
Looks like it was never trunk chopped while being grown in the ground.
Old wood like this trunk is unreliable for pushing out new buds.
I would do lots of thread grafts aiming at a classic formal upright. And some root grafts to fill in some of the gaps in the nebari.
Regards
Paul
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 3:32 pm
by alpineart
Hi Steven , i see a few options and it will take time .
1/ Flat cut the base at or just below ground level and completely build a new root mass leaving all the branches in place until next year to promote the new roots required .Then do step 2 next year
2/ Remove all the thick branches not flush a couple of millimetres should be enough enabling new shoots to emerge from the trunk , retain the apex however removing any thick branches in and around that apex and the few small thinner branches midway i would also keep . Next season do step 1
3/ Layer and or angle cut it midway using the smaller branch no-2 as a new leader, remove the lower thick branch not flush and start a new tree from the base and the layer .
Remove the layer mid season assuming with all the growth up top it will throw roots in a couple of months enough to severe it at least . Grow the base for the rest of the season and do step 1 next season .
Only a few suggestions that i wouldn't hesitate to do .
Cheers Alpine
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 4:08 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
Spring: Repot into a mix you know, root graft with seedlings to fill in the gaps.
Spring/Summer: Apply high fert and high water and get it growing well. I have had successful back budding from old wood like this, but
AFTER a season's growth, pushing energy up the trunk stimulating new buds. Watch the bottom branch for cluttered branch divisions
Late Summer/Autumn: Cut back to the red line that I have indicated below, possibly in another place depending on what pops throughout the season.
Steven Trident.jpg
Winter: clean up any branch divisions of more than two, clean the chop back, select leader (if you already haven't)
Spring: Apply high fert and high water and let the terminal bud on the leader grow as tall as you can to get thickness in the new leader
Rinse, repeat...and aim for a tree like Walter's below
Walter maple.jpg
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 7:14 pm
by Brian
yes it has no taper to the trunk unfortunately. Time to trunk chop it back severely.
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 7:31 pm
by Boics
How about a layer above the 2nd eye poker branch?
Just above the "trunk chop" red line?
2 for the price of one and the layer will likely have desired taper and branching?
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: August 13th, 2013, 7:34 pm
by Steve B
Straight trunk, unusual/undesirable root structure..... what to do with them? How about making them into a feature:
trident-maple.jpg
We know you like a challenge Steven! This one is from Peter Tea's blog and would certainly keep you busy for a while.....
http://peterteabonsai.wordpress.com/201 ... ent-maple/
Of course if it does take a lot of time to train I'm happy to look after some of your Mel's and Casuarinas while you've got your head down

Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: September 11th, 2013, 4:43 pm
by Steven
Thanks for the feedback and ideas
I decided to put an air layer on to create a shohin and medium sized tree like Walters that Scott posted.
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This was done a week ago and it has been powering on since.
Regards,
Steven
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: September 11th, 2013, 6:55 pm
by cre8ivbonsai
So is that 100% spag moss in the layer pot?
Re: Trying a Trident Maple
Posted: September 11th, 2013, 7:03 pm
by Boics
Will make a great little tree i reckon.
Did you remove the eye poker branch?
Look forward to seeing what happens with the base too.