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$4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 10:39 am
by Jow
I just came across the below pic on Bill Valavanis's blog and noticed the price.
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35万円 which translates to 350,000 yen (roughly $4000).

Not a bad price for a pretty intense Nebari, that's for sure!

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 11:19 am
by cre8ivbonsai
Interesting Joe, certainly money's worth for years of nebari work, but for me it brings up the point:

when is too much nebari over doing it?

or

is too much nebari never enough?


Interested to here what everyone else thinks?

For my :2c: I think the tree is nice but the nebari is over proportioned and doesn't appeal to my aesthetics.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 11:24 am
by klaery
I am with you Ryan. It is amazing and obviously alot of work and skill has gone into developing it, but it does not appeal to me.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 11:47 am
by bodhidharma
I am sure the tree or upwards trunk line will grow into it. Give it another twenty or so years. Good forward thinking i reckon.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 11:51 am
by Josh
I've seen this photo a couple of times and this is the first time I actually looked at the tree :lol: I really don't like the Nebari. It looks fake and takes away from the tree IMHO. I think all aspects of a tree should complement each other. It kind of looks like the tree melted or something. Now the tree itself is very nice :tu:

Josh

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 12:45 pm
by Olivecrazy
Great work from who ever took the time to develop the nebari but for me its way to much. With looking at the tree an trunk size ive done a virt of what i think a good nebari might be for the tree

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 12:49 pm
by FatMingsBonsai
Not my taste of a life like nebari :shake:

Thanks for sharing :tu:

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 2:03 pm
by Webos
I reminds me if those liquidambars or plane trees that line streets where the nebari has melted onto the road.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 2:11 pm
by NathanM
I like it :) I will be excited to see something like that grown here one day!!

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 2:37 pm
by DustyRusty
Looks like a tree growing out of the omelette I ate for breakfast this morning.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 3:20 pm
by Jow
I always find it interesting that people are generally ok with the abstracted, distilled shapes of deadwood junipers but then have issues when deciduous trees start to develop into more abstract representations. I like it and would love to own something similar.

The skill in creating something with a nebari that wide yet trunk so thin is nothing short of amazing.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 3:36 pm
by Rory
DustyRusty wrote:Looks like a tree growing out of the omelette I ate for breakfast this morning.
:lol:

Yeah, it just looks.... i guess.... ridiculous. I can't think of a time I have ever seen a tree like that in real life. Even trees that the roots have ripped up the concrete or moreton bay figs don't go that far.

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 4:04 pm
by ADO
bonsaibuddyman wrote:
DustyRusty wrote:Looks like a tree growing out of the omelette I ate for breakfast this morning.
:lol:

Yeah, it just looks.... i guess.... ridiculous. I can't think of a time I have ever seen a tree like that in real life. Even trees that the roots have ripped up the concrete or moreton bay figs don't go that far.
Looks like the death of the wicked witch of the west (i'm melting etc)

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 4:46 pm
by Guy
has anyone ever seen a natural tree look anything like that "abomination" :P

Re: $4000 Nebari!

Posted: August 16th, 2013, 4:54 pm
by Jow
Well, the comments in this thread beg to ask another question.

Is bonsai simply making miniature models of real trees?

I tend to believe that they are art works depicting different people's interpretations of the feelings that trees give them. They don't have to be exact shrunk down copies, they can be completely un-tree like as long as they convey a feeling of tree or environment etc.

To highlight one aspect be it first branch, thick trunk or even huge nebari etc are all relevant approaches in my book.

Thoughts?