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Hi Folks

There is a mass of very confusing info w.r.t. pine training.

I would appreciate it if sks could give me a detailed breakdown in simple terms of what to do and when w.r.t. pine training. I am specifically talking about:
2 needle pines - Japanese Red, Japanese Black and Mugho;
3 needle pine - Pinus Radiata;
5 needle pine - Japanese White pine.

I specifically would like to know when to major prune (presumably in winter), when to cut candles and by how much and the effects these treatments will have.

I am talking about pines from initial training and not pines that only need refinement.

Fred

hi Fred
this is the best breakdown i have seen

check it out

try these pages. its what i use but I only have 2 pines

https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... h_month%3F
https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... hould_I%3F

and particularly this on on JBP which describes Ryan methoeds
https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... Black_Pine

Ken

Hi Damian and Ken

Damian - The breakdown didn't come through. Could you please repost it.

Ken - Thanks for the links.

Fred

Hi Fred,
The video that was posted is called Ryan Neil lecture on pines it is in 2 parts and is worth searching for on YouTube. It answered so many questions for me after I was given my first black pine. Hope you find it Mia


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The best info I know of, and the way I have learnt to treat pines is here:
http://bonsaiboon.com/pages/shopping/sh ... etail.html

The DVDs aren't free but IMO are worth their weight in gold.

The youtube videos with Ryan are good too.

Thanks for the link Scott I will be checking those out for sure. My birthday is coming up I may just tell the partner he has to get me these.


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Hi Fred,

If you are wanting a great book that is easy to follow on Pines, I can recommend this book:
It is written by an Australian for our region, it has all the info in it that you could need for Black pines and goes a long way to dispell any unfair myths that are often associated with Black pine.

If you are interested in pines, this book is a must have.

Cheers

David

I forgot about Leong's book, another great reference.

Scott Roxburgh wrote:I forgot about Leong's book, another great reference.

LOL Most people do Scott so its not uncommon mate, a bit like his Fig book

An Australian writing a book for Australian conditions, quick lets ask someone from Overseas (Sorry, thats a bit cheeky)

Hi Folks

Thanks to one and all for your responses.

I am now making some headway in the care of pines. I like the simpler approach of Ryan and Dennis.

I know of Leong's books on Figs and Pines. Unfortunately the cost of postage to New Zealand kills the deal. When I enquired, the Fig book was $40 and the Pine book was $50. Is that still the prices?

I have a question w.r.t. more than 2 branches at a single junction. Can I remove the extra branches at this late stage, leaving the weakest two, before the sap starts rising and causing bleeding? The first 6 days of Spring have been cold and so it is still like Winter.

Fred

Yes, remove excess branches back to two.

Post a thread with pics so we can see what parts of the tree you are talking about.

Hi Scot

I have attached photos of 5 pines. These have been recently dug out of a garden. Can I now reduce down to two branches at a junction or do I have to wait until autumn / winter to eliminate the risk of bleeding?

What season is the right time to undertake major pruning?
Fred