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Melaleuca from SA

Posted: April 30th, 2014, 11:36 pm
by milly.abrahams
Okay, so I've been mostly lurking around here for a while now and making a comment here and there.
The thing is I've really grown to love what you do with your Mels so I've been hunting for something good in our nurseries and I think I've found one.

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: April 30th, 2014, 11:41 pm
by milly.abrahams
Some more pics...

I love the base and the movement in the trunk.
Would love to get your opinions.

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: April 30th, 2014, 11:56 pm
by Pup
G,day Milly, that looks more like a Callistemon, but they are considering putting them into the Melaleuca genus, some states have done that already, some are still talking about it.

I think they will retain the common name of Bottlebrush though as it hard to break old habits.
Yours has the potential to be a nice tree.

Cheers Pup

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 1:02 am
by Andrew Legg
Pup . . . think its a Melaleuca bracteata. It's definitely not a Callistamon. I have one at my place now, but can't read the label as I'm at work. Milly, is it a Joburg Gold?

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 8:08 am
by Brian Bishop
Congrats Milly, :tu:
On a good purchase.It looks like good stock and should give you a heap of pleasure in the future.
I have attached a pic of what I would do with the tree initially and then grow it on some more before deciding what to do with it stylewise.
Cheers...........Brian

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 4:48 pm
by Neli
To me it also looks like the trees I bought labeled melaleuka, after Pup infected me with the melaleuka malady. I have several varieties...some like this...some with red leaves and some with yellow (Johannesburg gold)...some are weeping and some are upright. Calistemons in my part of the woods have larger leaves...but then Pup is the man that knows better.
If you want a second tree you can airlayer in spring...my mels are so fast to root.

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 6:24 pm
by milly.abrahams
Hi everyone.

Thanks for your input.

This was labeled by the nursery as 'Melaleuca' and is what is commonly referred to as 'Johannesburg Gold' by SA nurseries.
Mr Pup we know many of your indigenous trees very well here [some have even become naturalised but that's another topic altogether], and the various Callistemons is amongst that but this tree is not a Callistemon.

Cheers
Milly

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 9:55 pm
by dansai
It's a botanical nomelacuture (naming) thing.

Callistemon and Melaleuca have near identical flowers so it has been proposed, but not necessarily universally accepted, that all species from the genus Callistemon be moved to the genus Melaleuca.

Most people will still refer to them by what they know and Callistemon and Melaleuca are used a bit like common names like Bottle Brush and Paperbark. The main difference that people use to distinguish the 2 is the bark. Melaleuca has papery bark, hence the common name Paperbark, and Callistemons have fissured bark like yours. These carachterics aren't necessarily botanical distinguishing features as these are largely based on flowers, hence the reason for the change.

It may be that the nursery you sourced these plants from have accepted the name change. Either way it doesn't matter what they want to call it, you have good material to produce a great Bonsai.

Happy Bonsai
Dan

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 10:56 pm
by Pup
milly.abrahams wrote:Hi everyone.

Thanks for your input.

This was labeled by the nursery as 'Melaleuca' and is what is commonly referred to as 'Johannesburg Gold' by SA nurseries.
Mr Pup we know many of your indigenous trees very well here [some have even become naturalised but that's another topic altogether], and the various Callistemons is amongst that but this tree is not a Callistemon.

Cheers
Milly
Thank you for clearing that up for me Milly

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 1st, 2014, 11:12 pm
by Bebbas
Fantastic response Dansai.

Very gracious Pup....

Re: Melaleuca from SA

Posted: May 2nd, 2014, 5:29 pm
by milly.abrahams
Mr Pup, if you were a lesser man I would probably have offended you. I am sorry, it was not my intention.
Dan, thank you for the info.

B R
Milly