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New juniper
Posted: August 16th, 2014, 4:39 pm
by Pezz95
Just bought myself a juniper, was wondering if it can be left outside without and cover on top or it needs to be under cover? Thanks
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 16th, 2014, 5:47 pm
by kcpoole
Very few trees can be kept undercover
All junipers and pines need full sun and weather, check out the wiki for tips on how to keep a tree healthy
https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... ai_healthy
Ken
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 16th, 2014, 6:28 pm
by Pezz95
Okay thanks for that, I was just deciding whether to put it under the front porch or in the backyard on our table. The table it is then. Thanks for that (:
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 16th, 2014, 11:38 pm
by kcpoole
You can bring them inside for a few days, then back out for recovery for a few weeks.
Gives you a good excuse to have enough trees to keep one inside and rotate them
Ken
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 17th, 2014, 10:03 am
by Rory
Figs and Bougainvillea can be happily kept undercover, ...pretty much anything that is quite hardy can be kept undercover, .... however, you need to pay attention to watering very carefully. In other words, you must not over water if the soil is still wet when being kept undercover. I do keep certain stock undercover, because I have no other option, but provided they get enough sun and the right amount of water, it can be done. But Ken is right, in that obviously the preferred method is not to be kept undercover, in other words, generally speaking: a healthy tree in normal circumstances is out in the sun in the open environment. If they have to be kept undercover, make sure they are near the edge of the cover, so that they are exposed to maximum sunlight and possibly natural rain when it comes at a slight angle.
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 17th, 2014, 10:44 am
by Isitangus
I thought even with figs and Bougainvilleas that whilst they can be kept under cover, they won't thrive unless they get a good deal of direct sun???
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 17th, 2014, 10:48 am
by Pezz95
I've put it on the outside table in full sun now guys, gave it a good water after it had been repotted and now working on a stand (:
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 17th, 2014, 9:53 pm
by Rory
Isitangus wrote:I thought even with figs and Bougainvilleas that whilst they can be kept under cover, they won't thrive unless they get a good deal of direct sun???
Well, it all depends on where the sun goes. In winter, the sun comes from a very low angle, and in summer it is right over your head, so provided it gets angled sun, there is no problem with being under cover. For most of the cover I use, its corrugated clear plastic. So it still gets overhead sun in the middle of summer.
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 17th, 2014, 10:13 pm
by shibui
I thought even with figs and Bougainvilleas that whilst they can be kept under cover, they won't thrive unless they get a good deal of direct sun???
Many tropical and subtropicals are adapted to the low light levels of rainforest so they can survive even in the dark 'caves' that we call houses. You will find that nearly all traditional 'indoor' plants originally came from rainforests.
Most temperate plants are adapted to higher sun levels and don't do so well in the shade.
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 18th, 2014, 9:46 am
by Rory
shibui wrote:I thought even with figs and Bougainvilleas that whilst they can be kept under cover, they won't thrive unless they get a good deal of direct sun???
Many tropical and subtropicals are adapted to the low light levels of rainforest so they can survive even in the dark 'caves' that we call houses. You will find that nearly all traditional 'indoor' plants originally came from rainforests.
Most temperate plants are adapted to higher sun levels and don't do so well in the shade.
Precisely. And even more awesome, is when you grow species that can handle low levels of sunlight, you can then happily keep them indoors for a few days for your own viewing pleasure. Although, a true bonsai grower, will be outside every day, ... so... meh. There are many shade tolerant beautiful species you can grow that will tolerate low levels of sun:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18044
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 18th, 2014, 3:53 pm
by Bush bunny
Junipers also survive at high altitudes. They are rugged buggers. I suspect it depends where you live, I live on the Northern Tablelands, and my junipers are outside all year. But I do give them some sunlight direct but change them to light only morning sun and as the sun moves to the west, they do get some shade in summer. Bloody cold here in Armidale. Dropped to 5C and I swear I saw some sleet before. So my sub tropicals and tropicals like figs and umbrella tree are inside or outside in a covered aquarium. So are the Zygoes 30 year old ones, always inside during winter, that they prefer anyway.
Re: New juniper
Posted: August 18th, 2014, 5:24 pm
by rodm
Mate, my collection consist of pines, junipers, elm and maples plus a few non discripts varieties. Most of the collection spend all year round, outside in direct sunlight. The maple and smaller bonsai may get moved around a bit. Tamworth like a lot of places does have a big range of temps and relatively dry. Care and maintance is entirely depend upon the indiviual

Cheers Rod