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This is another Ash which I got the same time as the tree I'm doing in the Ash E-workshop with Grant. Again it was severely trunk chopped then let to throw buds. I choose a leader and have developed from there. Starting to take shape, long way to go I know so thought I start a thread for it's progression. The roots were bit of a mess so took a bit to clean up. I have used the tooth pick method (using a chop stick) to try and start a new root towards the back on this tree. Now to get some ramification. Hopefully it will pop buds for me and I can start to get ramification on it. This will be a short solid tree when finished.

Josh

looking good Josh, i'm working on a ash stump also, i like your other E-workshop tree too, its getting there and very quick too

FEX wrote:looking good Josh, i'm working on a ash stump also, i like your other E-workshop tree too, its getting there and very quick too

Thanks Fex. I love ash. They are great to work on and respond really well. They are pretty tough.

Josh.

Don't think me stupid, well you can of course. LOL. But I got some seedlings from a wood ash pile from a friend. I studied the bark and leaves of the parent tree, and looked at all the ash genus. I noted the young leaves looked more maple. And my friend said the tree had pink flowers. That caused her asthma. She hated the tree on her neighbors joining fence almost as much as the noisy neighbors. Anyway. I found out it was a box elder, or ash leafed maple, or Acer negundo violaceum. It is considered a noxious weed as it is so prolific, in NSW. It had five leaf not seven like this one, but it can be seven leaf. Anyway I am considering mine as a group planting next year.

Wow. That's a big scar matey. I wouldn't think that would be healing over in the near future, are you planning on hollowing or just leaving? Hard to see from the angle, but it seems that it has a lot of branches coming out from the same level. Good luck with it, you certainly have a tendency to work with large based stock

Rory what genus of tree is that you have as a gravatar? I ask because I have similar in my front garden, and I thought it was a small leaved privet? Very long trunk, but lots of foliage. It's ever green, so far this year, but some leaves have changed color and free loader, i.e. It was a wild self seeded that planted itself.

bonsaibuddyman wrote:Wow. That's a big scar matey. I wouldn't think that would be healing over in the near future, are you planning on hollowing or just leaving? Hard to see from the angle, but it seems that it has a lot of branches coming out from the same level. Good luck with it, you certainly have a tendency to work with large based stock

Ash are fast growing and heal really well compared to other trees I have. I will keep cutting the edge where it's rolled over to encourage continued healing. Will assess in a year or two whether I hollow it or let it heal over in time.
After taking the photo I went out and looked at the tree to see if the branches were really coming from the same spot. They are not, just bad photography. There are two branches near each other and the others are secondary branching off those two. I do like big trees however I do have some smaller trees as well. Just something about a chunky tree that does it for me (no wife comments thank you )

Josh.

Josh wrote:

bonsaibuddyman wrote:Wow. That's a big scar matey. I wouldn't think that would be healing over in the near future, are you planning on hollowing or just leaving? Hard to see from the angle, but it seems that it has a lot of branches coming out from the same level. Good luck with it, you certainly have a tendency to work with large based stock

Ash are fast growing and heal really well compared to other trees I have. I will keep cutting the edge where it's rolled over to encourage continued healing. Will assess in a year or two whether I hollow it or let it heal over in time.
After taking the photo I went out and looked at the tree to see if the branches were really coming from the same spot. They are not, just bad photography. There are two branches near each other and the others are secondary branching off those two. I do like big trees however I do have some smaller trees as well. Just something about a chunky tree that does it for me (no wife comments thank you )

Josh.

I've never grown Ash before, but good luck with the healing.
Yeah, I'm the same, I prefer larger bonsai, so I enjoy seeing what your experiences presents to us on this forum
I too find that shohin can be a little 'too little', and I personally find that they often don't resemble a real tree because of their miniaturisation, but each to their own. Keep up the enthusiasm and good work Josh

Bush bunny wrote:Rory what genus of tree is that you have as a gravatar? I ask because I have similar in my front garden, and I thought it was a small leaved privet? Very long trunk, but lots of foliage. It's ever green, so far this year, but some leaves have changed color and free loader, i.e. It was a wild self seeded that planted itself.

Sorry, I didn't notice your question from earlier. It is a Lilly Pilly. But mine is a special sub species, called a Silly Lilly Pilly, because it never does what I want it to do.

Typical Rory of some bonsai. Like rebellious teenagers. LOL

Well in my opinion, scars add character to a tree. Like humans, providing they are not disfiguring. Gives a record of life's ups and downs. And we still survive. Look at the branches torn off during a storm. Or when lightening hits a tree and it still survives. As I say

Josh wrote:

bonsaibuddyman wrote:Wow. That's a big scar matey. I wouldn't think that would be healing over in the near future, are you planning on hollowing or just leaving? Hard to see from the angle, but it seems that it has a lot of branches coming out from the same level. Good luck with it, you certainly have a tendency to work with large based stock

Ash are fast growing and heal really well compared to other trees I have. I will keep cutting the edge where it's rolled over to encourage continued healing. Will assess in a year or two whether I hollow it or let it heal over in time.
After taking the photo I went out and looked at the tree to see if the branches were really coming from the same spot. They are not, just bad photography. There are two branches near each other and the others are secondary branching off those two. I do like big trees however I do have some smaller trees as well. Just something about a chunky tree that does it for me (no wife comments thank you )

Josh.

I'd suggest using cut putty and covering with al-foil. I've seen tridents heal quite large cuts quickly with this method (probably not as big as yours, but certainly healed much faster than standard).

Great progression so far, looking forward to its future development.

Cheers,
Mo

Hi Josh,
I just noticed that you are developing some Ash trees. I have recently acquired a literati White Ash and being literati, I need to keep minimum branches and very tight compact foliage. Have you got any tips to keep them in check to this style
Regards,

MoGanic wrote:

Josh wrote:

bonsaibuddyman wrote:Wow. That's a big scar matey. I wouldn't think that would be healing over in the near future, are you planning on hollowing or just leaving? Hard to see from the angle, but it seems that it has a lot of branches coming out from the same level. Good luck with it, you certainly have a tendency to work with large based stock

Ash are fast growing and heal really well compared to other trees I have. I will keep cutting the edge where it's rolled over to encourage continued healing. Will assess in a year or two whether I hollow it or let it heal over in time.
After taking the photo I went out and looked at the tree to see if the branches were really coming from the same spot. They are not, just bad photography. There are two branches near each other and the others are secondary branching off those two. I do like big trees however I do have some smaller trees as well. Just something about a chunky tree that does it for me (no wife comments thank you )

Josh.

I'd suggest using cut putty and covering with al-foil. I've seen tridents heal quite large cuts quickly with this method (probably not as big as yours, but certainly healed much faster than standard).

Great progression so far, looking forward to its future development.

Cheers,
Mo

Thanks Mo, I've never heard of that technique before. There is a lot of healing to do on this tree but there is time. I may hollow it out yet. I'm quickly liking the way ash grow and develop.

Black Knight wrote:Hi Josh,
I just noticed that you are developing some Ash trees. I have recently acquired a literati White Ash and being literati, I need to keep minimum branches and very tight compact foliage. Have you got any tips to keep them in check to this style
Regards,

Black Knight, post a pic if you like so we can have a look. I've been learning a lot from Grant Bowie (have a look at sons of his posts on ash). Defoliating helps with back budding, I defoliate 4-6 tines a year. Keep more branches than you need to help disperse growth, reduces the long wild growth a bit. They can be remove later once you have more ramifacation. Hope that helps.

Josh.

Hi Josh,
Many thanks for the info. Defoliation and selective removing, makes more sense to me with this style than somewhere else I read, suggesting to cut back through the branchlet itself:lost:
Regards,