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Hi and thought I'd share my first Wisteria which was acquired in December bare rooted.

I have decided to train it in a semi cascade style and will eventually change the pot it current sits in.

It's age is 16 years and was told it won't flower this year due to the pruning however to my delight.. 2 beautiful blooms and oh what scent they have!

Very happy

Thats awesome, grats on the flowers!

I planted one recently, hoping to get it up nicely, however its no were near that old, i think its only about 3-4 years. So prob a few years yet before i get some flowers.

I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?

Gerard wrote:I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?

I have just planted wisteria seeds and the white ones were labeled Chinese white the Blues were just called blue wisteria. Both wisteria sinuses alba. Not sure if that helps though.

Lovely flowers inspired thanks for sharing

Gerard wrote:I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?

Identifying Chinese Wisteria

Chinese wisteria, also known as wisteria sinesis, has shiny green, alternate, odd and pinnately shaped leaves, four to ten inches long, with seven to thirteen leaflets on four to sixteen stalks.

The fruit is a flattened, velvety bean pod about two to four inches long containing poisonous seeds. In late summer the bean pod cracks open and releases the seeds.

The flowers are white, violet and blue, about six to nine inches long. Typically, Chinese wisteria flower clusters are more abundant than the Japanese wisteria.

Identifying Japanese Wisteria

Japanese wisteria, also known as wisteria floribunda, has shiny, dark green, alternate, odd and pinnately shaped leaves, four to ten inches long, with thirteen to nineteen leaflets on four to sixteen stalks.

The fruit is a flattened, velvety bean pod about two to four inches long containing poisonous seeds. In late summer the bean pod cracks open and releases the seeds.

Japanese wisteria has a more whitish bark with blooms of white, pink, blue and violet. The blooms can reach twenty inches long with a fragrance resembling grapes.

Spiraling Opposites

A curios difference between Chinese and Japanese wisteria is that Chinese wisteria vines spiral clockwise while Japanese wisteria vines spiral in the opposite direction.

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Gerard wrote:I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?

I have just planted wisteria seeds and the white ones were labeled Chinese white the Blues were just called blue wisteria. Both wisteria sinuses alba. Not sure if that helps though.

Seed grown wisteria may take many many years (like 15) before they flower, whereas cutting are the opposite.

Inspired wrote:Hi and thought I'd share my first Wisteria which was acquired in December bare rooted.

I have decided to train it in a semi cascade style and will eventually change the pot it current sits in.

It's age is 16 years and was told it won't flower this year due to the pruning however to my delight.. 2 beautiful blooms and oh what scent they have!

Very happy

I love the tree but not sure how you will make it into semi cascade?? I'm not saying it can't be in just saying I can't picture it.

Whilst having leisurely perusals in nurseries and garden centers I did notice and wondered how they managed to get their what looks like several year old wisterias to bloom?

The plant themselves were no higher than half a meter with pencil size thickness for the young vine. Could it have been cuttings from a more matured specimen or perhaps a graft?

Anyone have a pink wisteria?

I am like Inspired, I bought two Wisteria from the big green house last year to grow over a pergola and although both has thicken from pencil thickness to about 2cm, one has started flowering this year.
I thought they don't flower for 10 - 15 years old.

They must be cuttings from an older stock because I air layered a thick branch from my parent's house (approx. 5 - 6cm ) and it flowered covering the entire plant this year.
Unfortunately, I was overseas when it was in full bloom and only came back to see the drying flowers that has mostly fallen off.

Isitangus wrote:I love the tree but not sure how you will make it into semi cascade?? I'm not saying it can't be in just saying I can't picture it.

Cheers Isitangus I do see that most semi cascades are derived from one main branch cascading. I'm planning on using several layers of branches with the bottom branch to be pulled downwards with the others veering to the right to be shortened. This will hopefully amplify the display of blooms as they are left to cascade from the branches themselves.

I do dislike the straight up branch in the middle which I've yet decided how to best work it

Air layer the straight up branch. Would look good as another specimen.

Inspired wrote: A curios difference between Chinese and Japanese wisteria is that Chinese wisteria vines spiral clockwise while Japanese wisteria vines spiral in the opposite direction.

I believe it is the other way. Chinese Wisteria coil anti-clockwise and Japanese coil clockwise. After hearing of my desire to learn more about Bonsai, my dear sister has just presented me with a 3yo Japanese Wisteria from the Green Shed and is expecting me to create something akin to the bonsai wisterias she has seen on the internet... like, now. I haven't got the heart to tell her she'll prolly have to wait about 10-15 years.