AusBonsai

hey everyone,

does anyone know where i could get a large supply of chinese elm or trident sapplings'whips, wheter they are rooted cuttings or what, they need to be about 30-60cm in length(height) as I am going to try the fused tree technique.
I am in the widebay area of queensland. I am will to have them sent to me if needed. i would prefer them as whips as i would like to get things moving as such and not have to propagate from seed and have to wait a year or two to get them to the size to accomplish the desired effect!

thanks in advance

kindest regards jamie

i have seen a fused trident in one of the bonsai magazines a few years ago and always wanted to give it a try, the results were amazing!

JayP wrote:i have seen a fused trident in one of the bonsai magazines a few years ago and always wanted to give it a try, the results were amazing!

to right there mate, i seen it on this website

http://www.dugzbonsai.com

and in craig coussins master class and have wanted to do it for ages too.
i have gotten to the point where i bought trident maple seeds and am propagating them myself.
they have about a month and a half or so of cold stratification then into the propagation mix!
i got my frame ready to go, just gotta get the seeds to turn into seedlings now

jamie

jamie111 wrote:i would prefer them as whips as i would like to get things moving as such and not have to propagate from seed and have to wait a year or two to get them to the size to accomplish the desired effect!

thanks in advance

kindest regards jamie

Tsk Tsk ... waiting is everything as far as bonsai is concerned, the more you are prepared to wait the better your bonsai will be, plant those seeds today

well i think i have been pretty patient, i went and got the seeds now they are in the fridge cold stratifying and then i gotta wait for them to grow... if they do

all is good though and yes i agree patience is everything in bonsai im just glad i have time on my side.....wish i got the seeds bout 2 years ago though


jamie

I was going to do a fused chinese elm..... (you need approx 100 pluss seedlings, and at roughly 3- each.....) So I was doing it by seed, I had roughly 100 chinese elm seedlings growing in the backyard, Then my father, a lovely helpfull man, decided to whippersnip the "weeds" of course in amongst the weeds were..... You got it, my elms. one of the things I found during this process, was that the seedlings grow at greatly varied rates, some shooting up, some seeming to stagnate, i can only recommend that the more seedlings you get access to the better, and also, make your frame VERY sturdy (Mine came appart while attempting to get the trees wired to it) obviously the thingys I used to tie the wires together was not good enough.

Oh, and if you can get a current email address for doug? (I'll look it up in a sec) he's very happy to talk about the fusing process. (Or he used to be anyway)

here is his website http://www.dugzbonsai.com/

i'm pretty sure this is the same guy i had read about in the magazine article, i think it may have been 'international bonsai'. i actually have a small taiwan trident maple with quite a lot of seed on it but i know nothing about maple seed, if you are interested in a future project maybe we could work something out..? i would happily collect as many of the seed as possible and send them to you for stratification, if say when they are ready for germination you sent some back.?? let me know

jamie111 wrote::wish i got the seeds bout 2 years ago though


jamie

Oh we all wish that

paddles wrote:I was going to do a fused chinese elm..... (you need approx 100 pluss seedlings, and at roughly 3- each.....) So I was doing it by seed, I had roughly 100 chinese elm seedlings growing in the backyard, Then my father, a lovely helpfull man, decided to whippersnip the "weeds" of course in amongst the weeds were..... You got it, my elms. one of the things I found during this process, was that the seedlings grow at greatly varied rates, some shooting up, some seeming to stagnate, i can only recommend that the more seedlings you get access to the better, and also, make your frame VERY sturdy (Mine came appart while attempting to get the trees wired to it) obviously the thingys I used to tie the wires together was not good enough.

Oh, and if you can get a current email address for doug? (I'll look it up in a sec) he's very happy to talk about the fusing process. (Or he used to be anyway)

here is his website https://www.dugzbonsai.com/

hey paddles i was thinking of doing it with elm aswell, but the research i done discovered that they wouldnt fuse as easily as tridents. instead of getting a flatter fuse you would get more of a circular pattern through the trunk, its like they would fuse but keep there shape too does that makes sense ??? so hence the tridents are what i got
i have 100 seeds to do this with so hopefully it works out ok as my frame is only 6 inches high by 6 inches across. going sumo style
and also my frame has been soldered together, i am a metal fabricator by trade so i got the gear

JayP wrote:i'm pretty sure this is the same guy i had read about in the magazine article, i think it may have been 'international bonsai'. i actually have a small taiwan trident maple with quite a lot of seed on it but i know nothing about maple seed, if you are interested in a future project maybe we could work something out..? i would happily collect as many of the seed as possible and send them to you for stratification, if say when they are ready for germination you sent some back.?? let me know

it would be the same bloke and yea we can work something out mate collect them up by all means. cant say no to free seeds which can be future trees and the stratification process is quite simple but i would be happy to do it for ya and then send them back

here is a link to a thread that shows the process in detail to the instructions i received with my seeds.

viewtopic.php?f=103&t=2200&p=24114&hili ... eds#p24114

this shows everything i did, so if we work something out you could give it a go to, because ya know the more thats going into stratifcation the better chance that we have of getting things to germinate. i am going on the basis that ya gotta get a hit eventually if ya keep swinging

let me know ya thoughts any way mate


and ozz, ya got that right

jamie

Yes, I know exactly where you could get them. Good plant size in small 3" pots for $6 each. All the same for chinese elm, corky bark elm, trident maple, japanese maple, cedar, willow leaf fig, lavender star.... you name it and I mean hundreds or thousands of each variaty. It is the Australian bonsai grower place that I mentioned earlier.
Cheers,
DK

Edit, the much bigger plants are in bigger pots and priced from $12 each. You could ask for discount price for bulk buy. I got free plants as well for buying over $100

nice DK. i will have to remember that, i have the seeds going for now so i will see how that goes and its pretty good of a nursery to give ya some free plants when ya purchase over $100, its nice to know there is still good will out there

jamie