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wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 12:47 pm
by Raymond
I seem to have developed a bad habit when wiring my trees. I consistently wire too tight and the wire bites into the bark before it has done what it was supposed to do. I'm very conscious of my habit, but I continue to make the same mistakes. Advice please...
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 1:30 pm
by treeman
Support the wire properly with the left hand and release the tension on the wire with the right hand at every coil around the branch before going round again.
wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 1:59 pm
by Elmar
Yes, and I have also been told to use the index finger to 'push' the wire as opposed to 'pulling' it around the branch/truck... Hope that makes sense!?!
Cheers
EZ
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Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 2:20 pm
by Jason
Yeah, I struggle with this too, i have a tendency of treating it like rope, where you'd pull it tight
Try not to 'pull' the wire around, but to just wrap it around

Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 3:42 pm
by Grant Bowie
Use a heavier gauge of wire and wire looser.
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 4:15 pm
by John Henry
Use copper wire and wire looser
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 6:26 pm
by 63pmp
Hold the wire against the branch with thumb. As you wrap, twist the wire at the same time with the otger hand. The more you twist the more the wire lifts of the branch. If you are using alluminium wire harden it first before wraping on branch.
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 7:39 pm
by Raymond
Grant Bowie wrote:Use a heavier gauge of wire and wire looser.

Never thought of that...
John Henry wrote:Use copper wire and wire looser
I think I am using copper wire

, I only get my wire from Bonsai Emporium.
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 14th, 2015, 11:44 pm
by Pup
Bonsai Emporium sell Aluminium, it is all that is available in WA at the moment. I do believe some people are trying to get enough interest to purchase some copper.
As for wiring guide it on with one hand holding with forefinger and thumb, then wind it on with the forefinger do not pull as this is what tightens it.
It has been said by Japanese Masters, learn to unwire this will make you better at wiring.
Cheers Pup

Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 15th, 2015, 7:07 am
by Rory
Grant Bowie wrote:Use a heavier gauge of wire and wire looser.
This is the best advice, and works for me too. I realized this myself when trying to wire bouganvillea.
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 15th, 2015, 8:08 am
by Jow
I am guessing that the reason you are ending up with overly tight wire is not a gauge issue but rather a technique issue.
I am guessing that you are using the branch to bend the wire around rather than the better method of bending the wire around the branch.
Basically you want to avoid using the branch to do the bending of the wire but rather form the coil with your fingers as you work along the branch and then snug it up against the bark as you make each revolution.
Clear as mud?
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 15th, 2015, 8:09 am
by Andrew Legg
Give up bonsai and become a hang-man.

Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 15th, 2015, 10:28 am
by Raymond
Pup wrote:Bonsai Emporium sell Aluminium, it is all that is available in WA at the moment. I do believe some people are trying to get enough interest to purchase some copper.
As for wiring guide it on with one hand holding with forefinger and thumb, then wind it on with the forefinger do not pull as this is what tightens it.
It has been said by Japanese Masters, learn to unwire this will make you better at wiring.
Cheers Pup

Thanks for the advice Pup. I didn't know my wire was ali...
Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: January 19th, 2015, 6:32 pm
by paulclohesy1985
Great bit of advice for a noob here. Thanks
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Re: wiring, bad habbits...
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 8:28 pm
by RevoEvoS
John Henry wrote:Use copper wire and wire looser
wouldn't copper be harder to bend/twist compared to aluminum wire which is easier even if its heavier gauge?