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Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 12:55 pm
by xIIRevoEvoS
Trying to locate some atlantic cedars in NSW thats close.
So far Ray and Megumi don't have starter stock but they have ones that are $20+. However its a good price but getting cuttings will be hard even both Ray Nesci/Alex Bennett said it will be hard to propagate them. :palm:
Anyone know any nurseries that have starter stock.

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 1:14 pm
by cre8ivbonsai
Go for the $20 ones, it'll give you more to play with and have saved you ~5 years in growth :tu:

these are pretty flexible species, so you'll still be able to manipulate most of the tree ;)

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 1:31 pm
by xIIRevoEvoS
cre8ivbonsai wrote:Go for the $20 ones, it'll give you more to play with and have saved you ~5 years in growth :tu:

these are pretty flexible species, so you'll still be able to manipulate most of the tree ;)
But what would you use to propagate?
Osmocote Propagating mix + propagating sand with a mini green house?

Trying to get some starters or pre starter for group plantings.

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 3:51 pm
by jimsai
HI mate ,

try the nursery on powder works road Eleanor's heights, on occasions he has had them and

at a good prices .Only draw back is he doesn't open until 11.00 am


good hunting,

Jim.

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 3:55 pm
by xIIRevoEvoS
jimsai wrote:HI mate ,

try the nursery on powder works road Eleanor's heights, on occasions he has had them and

at a good prices .Only draw back is he doesn't open until 11.00 am


good hunting,

Jim.
is there a site?

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 5:02 pm
by shibui
But what would you use to propagate?
Osmocote Propagating mix + propagating sand with a mini green house?
Cedrus species VERY difficult to grow as cuttings. I have only ever had 1 set roots and do not waste my time trying any more. Most are grown from seed or grafted onto seedlings. Theses are very slow to grow. A $20 starter would be a very good investment if you really want to grow these as bonsai.

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 5:33 pm
by xIIRevoEvoS
shibui wrote:
But what would you use to propagate?
Osmocote Propagating mix + propagating sand with a mini green house?
Cedrus species VERY difficult to grow as cuttings. I have only ever had 1 set roots and do not waste my time trying any more. Most are grown from seed or grafted onto seedlings. Theses are very slow to grow. A $20 starter would be a very good investment if you really want to grow these as bonsai.
How many weeks did it take to root 1 cedar cutting?
If I do get a Cedar that just so happens to have some cones, is it ok to grow them. I do have plenty of time and I'm 21 :lol:

Other back ups will be foemina or sargent juniper (like john naka) but will have an arch formation, elms (bonsai south) got a good starter selection.

Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 7:45 pm
by Isitangus
I think it's not the time it takes to make roots, more it more take 500 cutting to get 1 successful.


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Re: Atlantic Cedar starter help

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 7:47 pm
by shibui
How many weeks did it take to root 1 cedar cutting?
I've forgotten. The only 1 I ever manged to grow was about 20 years ago. Have not been able to do it since and I've tried quite a few times :shake: Probably 6 months or 9 months to get roots on a cedar cutting.
If I do get a Cedar that just so happens to have some cones, is it ok to grow them. I do have plenty of time and I'm 21
Having cones is just the first step. The cones need to have ripe seed inside AND some of the seed needs to be viable. Only a few of the seeds I get from the trees here grow when I plant them. All in all quite a frustrating species to propagate but do have fun trying. :D