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chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 6:31 pm
by Jamie
hey guys. ok i posted this elm in the exotics section but was after a bit more design advice.

i was starting to think about this one today at work and i am starting to think about splitting the trunk in 2. i will post what i have as the now front. the three other sides and a new virtual of what i am leaning too.
if you can see anything else in this tree please help. i am open to any designs and critque.
there is one other side that may be an option that i can see that may be a new front but i am not sure bout it yet. as this side (lhs) has no branching to the left and it doesnt seem to bud there at all.
the possible new front has a bit more interesting nebari i think

so go your hardest with the pictures, hack it up change it. play to your hearts content!

kindest regards jamie!

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 9:43 pm
by Chris
That is one nice tree. i like the idea of a split trunk be good to see wot you think up for an end result.

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 9:48 pm
by Jamie
yea im liking it too. i think on my virt i havent gone down far enough with the split. maybe closer to the base will look even better. gotta find out how well these respond to this. if anyone has done this sort of thing let me know please!

regards jamie

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 9:55 pm
by kcpoole
You need to do something with it as the step from the trunk to the top is way too large
Split woudl be nice or a really bug sloped cut and shorten the apex maybe

Nice stump tho :-)

Ken

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 9:59 pm
by Jamie
heres my virt again with a slightly lower left hand side and the split a bit further.

and the foliage on the left a bit more

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 10:02 pm
by Jamie
hey ken i know what ya mean with the step. i am not to sure bout that myself. it hides well in leaf but not when its naked.
the more i look at and play with the split the more i am likeing the idea :)
a few more opinions will be great. get my blinkers of to this tree and open up to possibilities. i look at it every day and am starting to lose design track a bit

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 10:07 pm
by Jester
Wow Jamie I like it.!! You've definitely got more forward vision than me. I think the colour and design of the pot matches perfectly but ....I think the pot is slightly too big (width wise) for your tree. A. I don't think the pot needs to be that big (Would prefer tips of foliage going slightly beyond boundaries of pot rather than way within it) and (B) I think a pot that size would detract a little too much from the beauty of the tree itself. Otherwise I love where you're going with it mate. Just my ten cents worth. :)

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: August 28th, 2009, 10:12 pm
by Jamie
jester, appreciate the input, on the pot it is there to allow the tree to grow a bit, was planned for oversize. the foliage might just go out past it eventually or a different pot will be sorted, not sure yet, i had to put it into something bigger than what it was cos when i got it, the pot was way undersize and root bound like crazy :) all good tho.

keep it coming guys

ps. i have a big imagination lol, i think thats where my foresight comes from

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 7:44 am
by kvan64
jamie111 wrote:heres my virt again with a slightly lower left hand side and the split a bit further.

and the foliage on the left a bit more
Hi Jamie,
First of all, thanks for all the help you gave me with the English Oak stump. I think people are right, you have good vision there. I love this spit a lot. It helps smooth the top and improves the style as well. Can't wait to see further progress.
Cheers,
DK

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 5:05 pm
by Jamie
kvan64 wrote:
jamie111 wrote:heres my virt again with a slightly lower left hand side and the split a bit further.

and the foliage on the left a bit more
Hi Jamie,
First of all, thanks for all the help you gave me with the English Oak stump. I think people are right, you have good vision there. I love this spit a lot. It helps smooth the top and improves the style as well. Can't wait to see further progress.
Cheers,
DK
hey mate. if you have a look at this thread viewtopic.php?f=104&t=2006 in the progression series shows what i have done with this one so far. the split trunk was a great idea in photo shop but to do it in real life was unrealistic! unfortunatly. it would have caused half round if that trunks and made it look awkward.. :shock:
further progressions can be seen in that thread as thats where i got better responses.

and as with the help i gave you on your oak stump thats no worries brother!! 8-) we are all on this forum not only to learn but to help and give advice and opinions! :D
its a pleasure for me to be able to help other people, as it is for me to learn for other people, appreciation comes from both ways! :D

ps. if i get the chance to do something like my virt on stock that doesnt have the potential this one does i will be doing it for sure. its a bonsai in my imagination that sticks with me :D

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 6:14 pm
by Asus101
I you do go to carve it, go look at hollows and rotted wood. I would think that a hollowed shari would suit the trunk well.
Elms have a soft wood, and dont live in the harsh conditions that Junipers and pines do.

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 6:24 pm
by Jamie
it does have some dead areas around the trunk where i could put a very large hollow into it that would suit it well, thanks for the idea asus! :D

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 7:08 pm
by Asus101
jamie111 wrote:thanks for the idea asus! :D
Dont tell anyone....

Re: chinese elm stump

Posted: September 24th, 2009, 6:58 pm
by Jamie
Asus101 wrote:
jamie111 wrote:thanks for the idea asus! :D
Dont tell anyone....

shhhhh, tell any one what????????? :D :lol: