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the little ash
Posted: August 29th, 2009, 9:23 pm
by Chris
I know it needs work and am trying to decide where to cut and wot branch to leave i know 2 have to go.
will this reshoot branches at any stage ?
I love my Penny Davis pot

i also like the lower left hand branch
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 10:37 am
by Jamie
hey chris, sorry i had to leave so quick last night missus as per usual.
this is a good little start.
i dont think it needs much branch removal, just some ramification on the apex, keep that left hand branch, develop it. it will work in the overall design.
cant stay to long now will go into some more detail later.
great pot too

Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 5:10 pm
by Jamie
this is a good one like i said before

i can see a couple of new shoots that will work to develop the right hand side of your "front" shot.
these will need to be grown out, cut back and grown out, and cut back.. you get my drift any way, a slight wire down once a bit of thickness has been acheived will help, what i see with this one is a typically strong apexed tree with a main branch slightly lower.
i will do a bit of a virt if you want me too
this will get going in no time, i think it will back bud alright to giving you plenty of option!
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 5:19 pm
by Chris
a virt would be nice thanks
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 7:34 pm
by Jamie
hey mate!
here it is your virt, for this to work i wouldnt cut any of those branches of, i would wire them down to create the canopy, the branch on the right hand side in the virt i added so you would have to either wire something down to it or hope it shoots around there and develop it, otherwise it isnt exactly necessary. less is more sometimes, i at first pictured this one with out the RH branch so in my opinion it actually isnt neccessary. well this is what i see in it so enjoy. hopefully others can put something together to help you with this great material!!

Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 7:36 pm
by Jester
Hi Chris, very unusual but nice. I especially like the cracks in the lower part of the trunk.. Would you by chance know the exact common name and botanical name of this tree? I would like to look up some info on the net for it.
Thanks
John
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 7:37 pm
by Jamie
actually looking at that more i dont think it needs to have that RH branch.... no i have confused my self

Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 7:57 pm
by bodhidharma
Hmmm chris if it was my tree i would take it off at the lowest branch(bottom picture lower left hand) and wire it up to create a new leader. this would give the tree some badly needed movement. maybe a good time to practise aerial layering skills, but is not my tree.
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 8:19 pm
by Chris
I'm unsure of the proper name. I like the idea of layering but also like the canopy i will keep thinking befor i go all out
thanks for the info
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 8:47 pm
by Jamie
could straighten the planting angle and go for a tall tree image..
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 8:54 pm
by Psymo
It's a desert ash i think? very nice pot.
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 9:06 pm
by MelaQuin
Fraxinus is the botanical name for an ash but I don't have it listed what the Desert Ash's full name is. Sloppy of me, my biographies should be better.
To me you have too many branches radiating from one point on your ash. An ash gives robust growth a new meaning and that area will be reverse taper before you know it. I would select one branch for the apex, remove the others and wait for buds to develop on both the header and the trunk to continue to fill out the tree's skeleton. Nice trunk. Lovely movement and bark... great potential in a short time. Do some good styling and you will have a benchable bonsai in a year.
A mate bought a revolting ash last September and literally cut the entire top off leaving only about 12cm of bare trunk. Today he has a very nice tree developing with a host of new branches and far more class than the original. So you have a great tree that is forgiving and robust - go for it.
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 9:16 pm
by Chris
Thanks MelaQuin i like the idea of ripping in. The pot is very special to me it's the best pot i have.

Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 9:35 pm
by Jester
Thanks for that Lee
MelaQuin wrote:Fraxinus is the botanical name for an ash but I don't have it listed what the Desert Ash's full name is. Sloppy of me, my biographies should be better.
To me you have too many branches radiating from one point on your ash. An ash gives robust growth a new meaning and that area will be reverse taper before you know it. I would select one branch for the apex, remove the others and wait for buds to develop on both the header and the trunk to continue to fill out the tree's skeleton. Nice trunk. Lovely movement and bark... great potential in a short time. Do some good styling and you will have a benchable bonsai in a year.
A mate bought a revolting ash last September and literally cut the entire top off leaving only about 12cm of bare trunk. Today he has a very nice tree developing with a host of new branches and far more class than the original. So you have a great tree that is forgiving and robust - go for it.
Re: the little ash
Posted: August 30th, 2009, 9:55 pm
by Jester
Thanks to Melaquin , I found the last part of the name of this tree. It is Fraxinus Angustifolia - Desert Ash. In Australia it is classed as a weed. It is only named "Desert Ash" in Australia.