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Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 11:34 am
by bodhidharma
I worked this tree at Hiro's workshop 2011? I have changed it a little bit from the original design and i have (for the time being) kept the twin trunk or very low branch theme. Still not sure about it and we will see. Hiro said to also keep the Knee root and i am also undecided about it as it gets bigger. They are a bugger for back budding or this one is. Anyway, a progress.
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 11:49 am
by Inspired
Shaping up real nicely there Bodhi! Big future with this pine i like it alot
Too bad we don't see too many quality pines posted
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 12:11 pm
by Gerard
Very nice, an interesting unconventional pot which I think works very well. One of Trevors'?
The jin on the inside curve half way up clashes a little with the branching. You might consider drastically shortening or perhaps removing it.
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 1:51 pm
by kez
Nice tree Bodhi, I think the changes work well. This tree is moving forward in the right direction and will be great
Inspired wrote:Shaping up real nicely there Bodhi! Big future with this pine i like it alot
Too bad we don't see too many quality pines posted
Really? Wow.....

Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 2:02 pm
by Jarad
kez wrote:
Inspired wrote:
Too bad we don't see too many quality pines posted
Really? Wow.....


Yeah, yours are terrible Kez.
Nice work Bhodi!
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 2:59 pm
by Inspired
Jarad wrote:kez wrote:
Inspired wrote:
Too bad we don't see too many quality pines posted
Really? Wow.....


Yeah, yours are terrible Kez.
Wow you guys are real critical so let me take a step back and "fill you in"
I'm sure there are a number of great pines around just that I have not seen them posted as often (probably buried in amongst all the thread and because I have not been active nor have I been a long time member so I would have missed some great projects).
Perhaps I should have clarified it somewhat more in that I like seeing a rugged starter stock tree go from nothing so special to something that makes me go "wow i like it alot".. progression series so to speak.
I give extra cudos when I see progressions as I enjoy seeing the transformation over time.. cudos Bodhi on this tree

Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 3:12 pm
by Jarad
Inspired wrote:
Wow you guys are real critical so let me take a step back and "fill you in"
Hey mate,
I'm sure I speak for Kez as well, we were just poking fun. Nothing spiteful meant at all.
Apologies if it came across the wrong way.
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 3:25 pm
by Inspired
Jarad wrote:Inspired wrote:
Wow you guys are real critical so let me take a step back and "fill you in"
Hey mate,
I'm sure I speak for Kez as well, we were just poking fun. Nothing spiteful meant at all.
Apologies if it came across the wrong way.
Yea I know Jarad no harm done at all just thought I'd clarify myself just in case as I've been away for a little while and that was my first post back.

didn't want to seem like i shot down any "pine posts" that i missed out being mia
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 8:30 am
by bodhidharma
Inspired wrote:Shaping up real nicely there Bodhi! Big future with this pine i like it alot
kez wrote:Nice tree Bodhi, I think the changes work well. This tree is moving forward in the right direction and will be great
kez wrote:Nice work Bhodi!

Thanks for taking the time guys
Gerard wrote:Very nice, an interesting unconventional pot which I think works very well. One of Trevors'?
The jin on the inside curve half way up clashes a little with the branching. You might consider drastically shortening or perhaps removing it.
Morning Gerard, Yes, a TW pot but i am thinking of pinching it for my Black pine

The jin will be changed but, at the moment, it is holding about 3 pull down wires

Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 8:53 am
by kcpoole
Inspired wrote:Jarad wrote:kez wrote:
Inspired wrote:
Too bad we don't see too many quality pines posted
Really? Wow.....


Yeah, yours are terrible Kez.
Wow you guys are real critical so let me take a step back and "fill you in"
:
You should have "filled us in " at the first post anyway!
I just took a minute to to look at these forums here
viewforum.php?f=104
viewforum.php?f=131
I count about 6 threads on the first page of each that make me go wow so there is no "probably buried in amongst all the thread and because I have not been active". A little bit of effort goes a long way.
Now back on thread, What a lovely tree Bodhi and congrats.
ps I quite like the knee
Ken
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 9:33 am
by Rory
A lovely pot and a fantastic start for this pine. Very nice Bodhi.

Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 9:49 am
by JaseH
Very nice Bodhi.

For me, the way the first branch bends over and down looks a bit un-natural. I think it needs some apex foliage or a jin or something at the high point to complete the story of a second tree, otherwise it doesn't make sense as branch?
I also like the knee - adds some character.
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 1:45 pm
by treeman
Nice little tree Bodi. Nothing wrong with the branches that I can see apart from the first one that goes which up I would be inclined to jin off. It will mature well. I think the knee has to go though.
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 3:35 pm
by GavinG
Three dimensions on a flat screen is certainly tricky.
The two things that jar for me I suspect aren't a problem in the bark. The knee and the first left branch look too close, but if the knee is backward-ish and the branch is more forward, I suspect that there feels to be more space in 3D. Similarly with the anchor-jin - it jars with the back branch, but once again it seems that they would be quite separate in 3D. The left branch that arches down echoes the top branches and works well. Seems to me that the knee is extreme, but echoes the first left branch and the angle in the top trunk really well, so it has a place, and the low trunk might seem a bit straight and tubular without it.
Interesting that you wanted a right-leaning tree but the tree wanted to go left and up. I've found it difficult to keep the down-side branches strong enough, even with selective pinching. (OK, I'm not exactly obsessive...)
Thanks for posting,
Gavin
Re: Scott's pine from Hiro workshop.
Posted: July 8th, 2015, 4:42 pm
by Grant Bowie
I like the knee and the secondary trunk. They both remove the tree from the ordinary.
It still has a few years to mature but what a great start and material.
Grant