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Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 7th, 2015, 12:36 pm
by Jimbomelville
I have a Murraya Paniculata stump that I will be working on in Spring/Summer.
I have been searching high & low for information on ramification with plants with a compound leaf.
Can anyone direct me to an information source?

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 7th, 2015, 1:55 pm
by Elmar
Hah! X2!
I have a couple of smaller Murraya... Not that k can see the compound leaf, mind you.


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Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 7th, 2015, 4:54 pm
by treeman
Just treat a compound leaf like any other leaf. You can defoliate Murraya easily too.

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 7th, 2015, 6:47 pm
by kcpoole
I just remove the second leaf as they are larger than the first one.
Cut back shotts and branches to develop ramificatuon as usual with any other tree

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Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 7th, 2015, 10:36 pm
by Jimbomelville
Thanks everyone.
Makes me feel more comfortable with it.

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 8:59 am
by Elmar
I have just taken a happy-snap of my Murray p. dwarf:
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Which is the 'second' leaf?

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 9:15 am
by kcpoole
the one circled in Red I consider the "second leaf"
MurrayaLeaf.jpg
it is the one that comes the middle of the first pair. ( Ok technically it is the third leaf), but the other 2 (in green) come out together and are always smaller.
the red one is stronger and elongates much more.

Ken

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 12:27 pm
by Elmar
Thx Ken,
These are the ones you suggested I trim off!?!


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Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 12:31 pm
by kcpoole
Elmar wrote:Thx Ken,
These are the ones you suggested I trim off!?!


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Yep the ones in red.
removing them will cause the others to stop increasing in size and promote back budding for ramification.

Ken

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 3:42 pm
by GavinG
it depends on whether you want the trunk to thicken reasonably quickly, or whether you want to keep the plant small and tight. You can let Murray's grow long to thicken them, then cut back hard once a year. The continual pinching is useful after you've made an interesting trunk - that's when you pinch for smaller leaves.

Gavin

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 4:39 pm
by kcpoole
GavinG wrote:it depends on whether you want the trunk to thicken reasonably quickly, or whether you want to keep the plant small and tight. You can let Murray's grow long to thicken them, then cut back hard once a year. The continual pinching is useful after you've made an interesting trunk - that's when you pinch for smaller leaves.

Gavin
Yep totally agree.
I assumed that the trunk and branching has been finished and now into the foliage control stage of the tree. No point in trying to control the foliage if it is not ready, but that applies to all species of trees we use as Bonsai.

Ken

Re: Murraya Leaf Techniques

Posted: July 8th, 2015, 7:59 pm
by Elmar
Thank you gents.

But lost on this one! I'd like to make it a small tree 100-150mm max., but it's terribly 2 dimensional!
I guess, if I let it grow for a season that would improve the trunk then cut back hard to control the size...


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