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Pinus mortus
Posted: December 15th, 2015, 7:08 pm
by shibui
Anything Treeman can do, I can do better -
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I have just discovered this pine species. It appears to make quite nice bonsai. This one has not needed any trimming this season and it does not need watering very often. Picking a pot to match the foliage colour could be a bit tricky though.
dead red pine 2.JPG
In the interests of full disclosure I do not know what has caused this. It was red pine and I've had it nearly 20 years without any hint of problems until now.
With Treeman's red pine and another AlburyWodonga club member losing an older red pine early in spring I'm wondering if there is something happening?
Other red pines here appear fine though.
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 15th, 2015, 8:38 pm
by bodhidharma
Thats a shame Neil but i suppose you could use it as installation Art, or firewood...or something

Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 15th, 2015, 9:42 pm
by bonsaisensation
Hi Neil
I too have lost some black pines and blue cedars so far this season. I kind of know why they die(the pines are root pruned very hard to sort out the roots). And the cedars are repotted late( those that died are the ones that have already lost their old needles and with only this season's new soft growth). Fatality rate are low though, about 15 out of 650 black pine and about 12 out of 150 blue cedars. Those few days of mid 30 degrees in early Spring in my opinion have contributed to that.
Well, the things that we do to test the limits of our trees.
Sorry for the loss, I remember the tree from Hiro's critique few years back.
Regards
Tien
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 15th, 2015, 9:53 pm
by Brian
I have also lost 2 exhibition quality trident maples this year after 30 years of care.
its very sad and upsetting....
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 6:12 am
by John Henry
Hi Neil, it's a real kick in the guts when this happens
your not alone
Cheers john
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 6:34 am
by alpineart
Well this is a real shame , but I'm glad I'm not alone . Most people don't tell of their losses , I have had quite a few Pines , Cedars , Junipers and Tridents go belly up early in this season even a huge native growing in the ground while the same tree 6 foot away is happily growing . I kill a lot of tree's with kindness , but lately their dropping like flies , its just lack of water for other reasons .
Cheers Alpine
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 8:41 am
by Rory
John Henry wrote:Hi Neil, it's a real kick in the guts when this happens
your not alone
Cheers john

Sorry to hear that John.
But...

I love the look of that tree in the background though. Is there any chance you could take some close ups of that one.
And my condolences to you Neil. I too lost a lot of trees in the last year, and for the new guys here, don't be disheartened by losing a large stock tree, or tree that you have worked on for a long time. Like all living things, some will have no explanation for the death that we can explain. But if you follow the basic principles, have a lot of stock, and don't let them dry out, you will get infinite rewards from this beautiful art.
Just take note that all the masters on here have lost great trees and we are all in the big same happy boat.

Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 10:08 am
by John Henry
Thanks Rory ,the tree in the background is a Black pine 1970 from seed has had only one owner until given to me several years back it's now in great health and if my passion for bonsai returns will be workshoped with TAIGA URUSHIBATA in June along with the Bunjin Red pine
Cheers John
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 10:29 am
by Rory
John Henry wrote:Thanks Rory ,the tree in the background is a Black pine 1970 from seed has had only one owner until given to me several years back it's now in great health and if my passion for bonsai returns will be workshoped with TAIGA URUSHIBATA in June along with the Bunjin Red pine
Cheers John

That is beautiful John, absolutely love it
John Henry wrote:and if my passion for bonsai returns will be workshoped with TAIGA URUSHIBATA

You gotta be kidding me! What is happening to our community.

There must be something in the air that is tainting the spirits of members here

Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 11:26 am
by Matthew
Neil
bummer ! i always tried to get you to part with that tree when i was there

Not sure what could of caused it . i dont believe you did anything drastic to it lately and i believe you repotted it this spring? Sad to here about it . I reckon this weekend with 2 days at 40+ will be testing for some of our trees
John
that Is a real nice pine you lost there

Any particular cause ?
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 16th, 2015, 9:10 pm
by Daluke
Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 17th, 2015, 8:40 am
by John Henry
Thanks Daluke very interesting

Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 17th, 2015, 10:15 am
by treeman
Thank you Mr Shibui! Your post has given me a lovely warm and fuzzy feeling and I will take great comfort in the knowledge that others are keeping up with - and overtaking me - in the ancient art of tree slaughter. Nice work

Re: Pinus mortus
Posted: December 17th, 2015, 11:20 am
by Rory
treeman wrote:Thank you Mr Shibui! Your post has given me a lovely warm and fuzzy feeling and I will take great comfort in the knowledge that others are keeping up with - and overtaking me - in the ancient art of tree slaughter. Nice work

