AusBonsai

I actually have the ID for this tree but and it's not a smart arsed request to fool anyone here as I have great respect for all those plying these pages.

This is a tree that I have been firstly trying to actually grow as I have had a lot of failures with this species trying to get it to except wiring, pruning and lastly potting in anything but a very large black pot or in ground.

Age in my possession is 3 years. Potted up in the pot pictured 2 years and 4 months.

Shaped and pruned for 2 years from original stock with 'notched bending and guy wires'.
Branches had been thinned although the original tree type has up to 4 times the amount that are pictured closely knitted that usually collect dried and dead foliage matter.

This tree was what was left after a dozen or so attempts to train, reduce height ect..The stuff we attempt to do that falls easily for some and results in disasters for others.

Again this is not a dig at experts or novices but lets see if anyone can identify the 'alter ego' of this rather common tree.

Regards Steve.

Im crap with id. Dont even know some of my own plants ha ha. but ill guess salt bush lol.

Sammy D wrote:Im crap with id. Dont even know some of my own plants ha ha. but ill guess salt bush lol.

Not a Salt Bush Sammy D.. Put it out there as a sort of Quiz.

Regards Steve.

Is it one of those blue varieties of Juniperus Squamata?

Matt S wrote:Is it one of those blue varieties of Juniperus Squamata?

Juniper but not close to a Squamata.

Hi Steve,
Foliage form says J. procumbens or J. procumbens 'Nana'.
Foliage colour says Meyers Juniper, J. squamata 'Meyeri'.

Neither of which are particularly difficult to grow.

Procumbens do go a little blue when grown in shaded conditions.

Cheers,
Mojo

Chinesis pyramidilis

Mojo Moyogi wrote:Hi Steve,
Foliage form says J. procumbens or J. procumbens 'Nana'.
Foliage colour says Meyers Juniper, J. squamata 'Meyeri'.

Neither of which are particularly difficult to grow.

Procumbens do go a little blue when grown in shaded conditions.

Cheers,
Mojo

Again the tree has it's true alter ego that in natural growing form does not resemble what is pictured.
My point in putting these images up is to show how we completely (on most occasions that is.) alter growing form to look either like something we have seen 'created' by us or others as enthusiasts ; by freakish conditions in the wild or just to have a go at something off 'the mark' that is possibly your own attempt that just maybe no one has thought of or attempted..

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. late runner..but not quite.

Daluke wrote:Chinesis pyramidilis

regards Steve

Again the tree has it's true alter ego that in natural growing form does not resemble what is pictured.

I'm guessing that Steve may be trying to point out that ground cover junipers can be grown as upright trees. Junipers are notoriously hard to differentiate because so many have similar foliage and growth habits. Also so many selections and varieties of the popular species can be quite different to each other.

I'm going to guess Juniper horizontalis- possibly 'wiltonii' aka 'blue rug'

Just a guess Juniperus horizontalis
Cheers
Kirky

KIRKY wrote:Just a guess Juniperus horizontalis
Cheers
Kirky

Yes. Probably blue rug or one of those cultivars.

I couldn't decide blue rug or blue forest.
Cheers
Kirky

shibui wrote:

Again the tree has it's true alter ego that in natural growing form does not resemble what is pictured.

I'm guessing that Steve may be trying to point out that ground cover junipers can be grown as upright trees. Junipers are notoriously hard to differentiate because so many have similar foliage and growth habits. Also so many selections and varieties of the popular species can be quite different to each other.

I'm going to guess Juniper horizontalis- possibly 'wiltonii' aka 'blue rug'

The Juni is an upright grower with no prostrate growing tendencies at all guys.

Regards Steve

Firecat wrote:

shibui wrote:

Again the tree has it's true alter ego that in natural growing form does not resemble what is pictured.

I'm guessing that Steve may be trying to point out that ground cover junipers can be grown as upright trees. Junipers are notoriously hard to differentiate because so many have similar foliage and growth habits. Also so many selections and varieties of the popular species can be quite different to each other.

I'm going to guess Juniper horizontalis- possibly 'wiltonii' aka 'blue rug'

The Juni is an upright grower with no prostrate growing tendencies at all guys.

Regards Steve

In that case, if it's not an upright form of horizontalis or sabina then maybe one of the weird rare kinds from Turkey or Greece or the US?
It's not sky rocket is it?

treeman wrote:

Firecat wrote:

shibui wrote:

Again the tree has it's true alter ego that in natural growing form does not resemble what is pictured.

I'm guessing that Steve may be trying to point out that ground cover junipers can be grown as upright trees. Junipers are notoriously hard to differentiate because so many have similar foliage and growth habits. Also so many selections and varieties of the popular species can be quite different to each other.

I'm going to guess Juniper horizontalis- possibly 'wiltonii' aka 'blue rug'

The Juni is an upright grower with no prostrate growing tendencies at all guys.

Regards Steve

In that case, if it's not an upright form of horizontalis or sabina then maybe one of the weird rare kinds from Turkey or Greece or the US?
It's not sky rocket is it?

Bugger.... hoping to get a 2 page post.
Sky Rocket in Flight..Afternoon delight.

All of the branches were wired at the beginning with kinks in the trunk done by notching and guy wiring/taping/raffia binding the cuts together. Watched a you tube clip on this and copy catted the technique sort of.
Others I tried shriveled at the ends as I didn't raise the tips of the branches up when wiring.
The Rocket is very supple to bend and heals and callouses very fast..well my idea of fast.
The pictured tree was a tube stock whip about 70cm in height with very little roots.
Now it needs continual attention as if it don't go out the bottom it pushes feeder's up and over the side...this has slowed since re potting from a sieve into a hard sided pot and straighten it's sit in soil.
I cut the op out and wired the 2 opposing branches and this has become the apex for now.
I know now that the cat is out of the bag that branch thinning needs to be done but I think I will see what happens with the trunk.
I could cheat and do a couple of splits as the way this thing heals I'd get a quick result but then I may loose it and now as interest was shown I think I like the alter ego Rocket.

Thanks for your research and interest in checking out my tree everyone.

Regards Steve.